You really should not take this personally.  She is not bad mouthing anyone, only asking important questions.

Chill already.

It is wrong to try and compare rates of deaths/complications without more data. Statistics are a complex thing to evaluate. It might be that there will be no more bariatric surgery related deaths at this site for many years to come. Working with such a small number of cases- it's impossible to set a rate.
We don't know how/why these people died, or how high risk they were. Then there are non-surgical causes of death- hospital caused infection, drug errors, rare allergies, blood transfusion reactions- the list goes on and on. I was surprised to see that they are doing this surgery on someone 67 years old, I had understood the age limit was 60.

Sadly people die who have low risks. I vividly recall a young- mid 20's, otherwise healthy woman dying after an appendectomy. She had a cardiac arrest and despite all our efforts in ICU she died. Another woman was having plastics to repair a minor problem-- and suffered a cardiac arrest- again otherwise healthy - low risk- mid 30's.

I practiced as a midwife for 10 years- never had a stillbirth, neonatal death, or maternal death. Does that mean that I never would have had that- NO. It's all in the odds. At some point I would have had a tragedy- would it be due to my error or to nature?  Human error is a factor- but nature has to be taken into account. I am sure that the deaths will be carefully investigated to make sure that all risks are reduced as much as possible.

Very well said

I still would like to hear what OHIP or Dent have to say abou this.  People have said numerous times that Dent has bashed the **** out of the DS because of it's complications and death rate..  Looks like Dent and his team have their own to explain.  Hey OHIP, I hope you come down hard on their asses this time around.  

Dr.Fitzer has even admitted that their stats are the exception and definitely not the norm. He said the norm is more like 1 death per 250 surgeries (still a better stat than the Ottawa hospital is giving right now).

Well, well, well.  They stopped Dr.L from doing the DS because of the "complications" but now we see this in Dent's world.

Yes, Eileen, I can see why you're upset but get some thick skin around here because people will express their concerns.   While I feel awful for the patients that have lost their lives,  I hope this proves to OHIP that Dent and his team are not the "be all and end all".  Perhaps they have bitten off more then they can chew and I certainly hope these patients did get the comparable care as we who went to the States for our surgeries.

Lorraine and Pheona,  I absolutely understand what you are saying.   Don't feel like you have to shut up because it "****** people off".  Nobody shut up for us way back when. 

I really hope this lady did not die from a preventalbe complication.  Let's wait for the details.

Not only has Ottawa Hospital only been doing the surgeries since Sept. 28th, I believe I read somewhere that they do an average of 3-4 surgeries per week, isn't that correct?
So.....that works out to be approximately 27 weeks x 4 surgeries = approximately 108 surgeries with 3 freakin' deaths and they don't do high-risk ones?
Scares the **** out of me.
I am not painting all Ontario surgeons with same brush - just speaking of dent and his Ottawa Hospital team, that's all.  If you had a successful, uneventful surgery there, I am sincerely happy for you.  However, I would NEVER do it.
Maybe OHIP will wake up soon and stop letting our fellow Ontarians die!

P.S. - I know of the one death - that lady from Carleton Place - could someone fill me in on the 2nd death?

Also....I didn't think weight-loss surgery was being performed on those in their 60's?  Again, correct me if I am wrong.

So glad I had my surgery with one of the world's best.  That is for sure, man.

Scares the crap out of me... i just hope they realize it and bring OCC back so that people can go to skilled surgeons.

Why the hell would someone with a bmi of over 50 let a newbie surgeon operate on them?

I just hope there are no more deaths, these poor people are just trying to get healthy and live, so sad.

My two cents!

Not disagreeing with you, but Dr.Yelle isn't a "newbie surgeon". He's done RNY's in the past and has been doing what they consider revisions (fixing leaks, etc.) for many years. As for Dr.Mamazza, I have no idea.