Personally, I don't care ...

Hmmmmmm......Me thinks it's unfair to slam someone in a battle of wits when they obviously came unarmed. LeaAnn

Me thinks you a numbnut(NUTS)

Cindy, But is IS a cure - we're not talking about people no longer needing their insulin or meds AFTER losing weight, we're talking being off medicine immediately after surgery. In many instances, people are leaving the hospital two or three days after surgery, no longer needing any diabetes medications. The high blood sugar does not come back. Isn't that a cure? As far as why it's not big news.... not to sound paranoid, but the drug companies have a very large interest to protect, as do the insurance companies. I'm not so naive as to believe that a pharmaceutical company has our best interests at heart. They aren't going to flush millions of dollars away by saying "Hey, you don't need our drugs anymore! Surgery will cure this condition, and you never need to risk blindness or amputation again!" They expect to recoup the expense of bringing these drugs to market, and that means the public needs to buy 'em! Don't RNYers frequently have the same diabetes reversal after surgery? I know a friend of mine with an RNY had that happen - left the hospital right after her RNY already off insulin and meds. My understanding was that the RNY would also get rid of diabetes, but that it wasn't as effective in keeping it gone. Please - no playground fighting. Can't we all just share information? Beth

Yes Beth, I do think almost everyone with type 2 and obese ,is lucky enough to be rid of it after any surgery.It didn't happen to me however. I am not on 100 units of insulin anymore but, I still take 2 pills twice a day. I am fine with that believe me. I really think its to early for any of us to tell what happens when we are 75. I hope you are right. I would love to see a cure for the dreaded diabetes. Its not a fun thing to have. A cure,I don't believe that but I do believe in remission. I am so tired from this day and the bickering. I think I feel like we were invaded for no reason at all. We really are a nice,plesent group and believe me,Dr.C doesn't need me to protact him. We know what a good Dr. he is . Glad you wrote , Cindy

If anyone would like information to support the 'notion' that DS can cure diabetes, Dr. Michel Gagner(you MUST know who he is if you have done any research) has told me that the DS is the only operation proven to cure diabetes and metabolic syndrome (which I happen to have). Medicine advances every day. Imagine that! I see that sportmanship is an issue over here. Too bad. For you. ~Christina

Let me insure that I'm in trouble with everyone: I have had the LapBand for three years and am eight days away from a revision to DS. I had recent contact with Dr. Curry on the main LapBand board and found him to be quite polite with my inquiry and forthcoming with information. In reading some of his other responses, I found him to be generous in offering his services to someone he felt was being charged an unreasonable amount for band adjustments. Now, in making that generous offer, he DID say that $1200 for a band adjustment was "ludicrous." I certainly did not take offense...but, in my little corner of the world, that's the going rate. So, maybe someone--a patient who pays that amount or my doctor who charges that amount (but maybe because he's paying Beverly Hills rent, not Cincinnati rent)--did. But, you know, it's a public bulletin board, so...they can just get over it. Deal is, Dr. Curry is a professional and every word he "says" here will either be judged by those of us who think we've done our homework a little better, or needlepointed onto throw pillows by those who adore him. He--like any other professional who dares to post here--is between a rock and a hard place. If he comes cruising on through, expressing his thoughts as he goes, he ends up using words like "ludicrous," and "nuts." His other choices are to never visit here or to adopt the distant, lofty, lecturing demeanor that many of us complain about in our medical professionals. That said, "nuts'' hits a nerve with DS patients. Pre-op we are repeatedly told that we are going to die in the OR (often by people who are going to die from MO, because of insufficient ewl with THEIR choice of wls), and that we will permanently smell like sewer lines. Post-op, patients are repeatedly presumed to have had the RnY and have to guard against receiving medical care designed for the RnY patient. (This is why I have my LapBand card in my wallet and EVERY medical/dental professional I deal with is required to keep a copy of it on the TOP page of my file...or I'll take my insurance and go elsewhere. I even had to meet with the chief of anesthesiology at my local veteran's--yes, I am a veteran and you're welcome--hospital to make SURE he understood what equipment I was toting around.) So, writing as someone who ALWAYS opens mouth prior to engaging filters...I can say that "nuts" was probably not a very good choice of words. And, the good doctor probably knew that when he wrote it. And felt like writing it anyway. But by starting yet another thread, Cindy, to continue the bickering makes it sound like *you* think he can't speak for himself and/or that his reputation wil be enhanced by your acting as his unpaid spokesperson. Let me dissuade you from that assumption. And, if someone here thinks DS doesn't *cure* Type II Diabetes, maybe you should notify CBS news: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/12/health/main648877.shtml Alrighty then, half the LapBand board already thinks I'm out to undermine the band...so THEY hate me. And maybe some of my new DS buddies will not understand my position on this thread...and I really need their support, especially this close to my surgery. But, in case there is any one here I did not offend... *Hey, Ohio! That whole election thing...even more embarassing than having Ahnuld for governor.* Sue Left Coaster PS to Dr. Curry should he have the time for this nonsense--there was a least one paper presented at the last ASBS gathering...I hope you have had time to peruse it.

Sue-Finally a voice of reason in a sea of madness. Cudos to you for being articulate, considerate and well spoken. Good luck with your surgery and with the DS board.

Sue your position is the same as ANY of our (DSers) position. You just said it more slowly so they can understand. (Ah, hell, this thread is deadmeat anyway!) LeaAnn

You have our support, Sue. I agree with your position. Sounds like what I already said in so many words. LeaAnn

I agree with you 100%