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ididabadbadthing
on 4/19/14 5:14 am - TN
Topic: What's for Easter Dinner?

Baked Ham

Cole slaw

Sweet potatoes

Asparagus

Deviled Eggs

Fresh fruit

Bread

Kate -True Brit
on 4/19/14 5:04 am - UK
Topic: RE: Free Speech
On April 19, 2014 at 11:45 AM Pacific Time, Jost Dreams wrote:

Unfortunately yes, the Klan is alive and well in the US.  People can speak on just about any topic in the US and claim their right to Freedom of Speech.  Much like the Right to Bear Arms.  I don't believe our Founding Fathers would have supported the use of today's super guns or many other things happening in the US today.  We still live in incredible country but it is changing fast for the worse unfortunately.

It's difficult, isn't it! I can't even pretend to understand the issue of guns in the US but I can see that freedom of speech is complicated. The KKK would not be allowed to march or to declare their views to an audience here, but that involves some sort of value judgement. And who makes those judgements on behalf of the citizens? Our parliament passes the laws which the police and courts enforce but by so they are denying freedom of speech to one group who are also citizens!

i think I very much prefer to have the limitations but it undeniably means we do not have complete freedom f speech! I suppose as long as we have a democratically elected government, there are checks and balances. 

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Jost Dreams
on 4/19/14 4:45 am
Topic: RE: Free Speech

Unfortunately yes, the Klan is alive and well in the US.  People can speak on just about any topic in the US and claim their right to Freedom of Speech.  Much like the Right to Bear Arms.  I don't believe our Founding Fathers would have supported the use of today's super guns or many other things happening in the US today.  We still live in incredible country but it is changing fast for the worse unfortunately.

Jost Dreams
on 4/19/14 4:38 am
Topic: RE: Free Speech

Thank God for freedom of speech in the USA.  People in many countries don't have that basic right, even in the business world.  On internet forums it means putting on your big girl panties and realizing that you can't force your own wishes of a utopian forum on others....you'll end up being called the forum asshole or much, much worse.  

 

 

jubjub
on 4/19/14 3:55 am - Palm Desert, CA
VSG on 06/25/12
Topic: RE: Favorite vacation spots in India and Asia

Saw Kerala mentioned a couple times above - I add my voice to that.  We did a 3 week trip from Madurai, Tamil Nadu to Aleppo in Kerala, then up the coast to Trissur - then In to Nagarhole - the ecolodge there was great - lots of wild elephants... Pix

Siem Reap Cambodia - Ankor Wat... Pix

Vietnam, both the South and the North were great... we did some good tours out into the small villages in the North, near the china border; Pix

Burma/Myanmar... very interesting.  We traveled around a little, Bagan was fascinating...  Pix

 

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Kathy8429
on 4/19/14 1:58 am
Topic: RE: Mononucleosis

My daughter got mono when she was 25. She is now 31 and whenever she gets a bug her lymph nodes swell to the size of golf balls, and she is laid up for days. I think the fatigue is the worst for her

Kathy8429
on 4/19/14 1:55 am
Topic: RE: Hobbies new and old

I've been practicing fashion sewing. I took sewing in school but switched to quilting in the early 90s. Now I'm determined to make a custom fitted wardrobe. Im amazed at how many blogs there are that give instructions

Kate -True Brit
on 4/19/14 1:52 am - UK
Topic: RE: Free Speech

Genuine question here, are there ANY limitations on free speech in the US? Here in the UK we do have exceptions. (Not talking about slander and libel.)  For example, people cannot openly provoke racial aggression or violence. So someone standing on a street corner saying that all (insert whichever race) are sub-human and should be so treated, would be moved on and, at the extreme, if they refused to stop would in the end be arrested. That would be a last resort.

But I once read that somewhere in the US, a KKK meeting had gone ahead because to stop them would infringe their right to free speech. Is that correct?

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on 4/18/14 11:36 pm
Topic: RE: SK's illustrated fact of the day: 4/17/14

Love your posts.Gets the mind working and thinking.

AnneGG
on 4/18/14 10:15 pm, edited 4/18/14 10:19 pm
Topic: RE: Free Speech

Well put and terrific statement of position! I'm in agreement.

I suppose the only piece I would add is that the level of free speech allowed needs to depend on the cir****tances and place and purpose intended. For instance, I have the right to call the rules in my home, or determine the the agreements for a group I facilitate or lead in order for the space to be workable for the majority of the members in providing safety or supporting the purpose of the group. We do have the freedom of beliefs and debate, and we have the right to defend our position as well as be a stand for it.

Interesting website re: the legal limits of freedom of speech: http://www.freedomforum.org/packages/first/curricula/educati onforfreedom/supportpages/L04-LimitsFreedomSpeech.htm

Or Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

The most important thing I have learned from traveling in other parts of the world is a profound appreciation for the freedoms we have here in the US. 

Hey, not bad for just getting out of bed this morning!

 

 

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