kept/retained basically the same thing.. the reasoning and/or points of legality is what was coming into play.   I will not argue the point if you are saying that a forum like OH (using this one out of convenience) only holds old postings for readership purposes.  But again the subject was freedom of speech and limitations.

Even deleted poats are visible, just not to the general reader. As a group moderator on another OH board, all the deleted threads are still visible to me, they just turn purple and have a dotted line round them. On a separate site I use, as moderator, I can check back on any post made at any time by any poster. I can do it by date, topic or by name of the poster. This is totally normal. So, yes, the old r and r posts will still be there, just closed to publc view.

Not sure what your point is, as I was talking about freedom of speech and some of the limitations of such. And simple fact is threats are not protected as a right.   If a 'friend' of mine made a threat on a board several years ago, I really don't think I'm going to bother myself with it.. my time is a little more valuable then that.

I don't believe I am any more circular in my thinking then what our nation really is.  While you may despise what the KKK stands for or your belief of what the KKK stands for they have as much of a right as everyone else.  To deny them the same rights that the rest of the nation holds dear would be self defeating in my eyes.

I guess it could be said that our sons and daughters are in the military helping to ensure everyone's rights to the freedoms that we have come to take for granted.  Including the rights of those who want to refer to those same people as baby killers etc.  They are defending all rights, the abuse of rights is for  a court to decide.

This is where I struggle with so called hate crimes.  A murder is a murder in my eyes, be it a white man, gay man, or a black man, etc.  We seem to be determined to place more value on one form of life then another and we do the same with speech and how it affects individual rights.

My mother motto was "poor people can't afford cheap stuff".  Some of items in those stores are very poor quality and you need more. Some are really more expensive than you can get in other stores.  My ex tried to save money and bought cat food in one of those stores.. . one cat got sick and after a week with a sick cat, and over 200 in vet bills.. He decided that he can't save money that way.