Free Speech

Kate -True Brit
on 4/19/14 5:53 pm - UK

Susan,  no, there has been talk of it but it has never been made illegal. 

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Jost Dreams
on 4/19/14 5:55 pm

Oh yeah, it's quite alright to say that the Holocaust never happened, openly compare President Obama to Hitler and call him in the N word just cause he's one of them thar Demikrats and the country has gone straight to hell because of one man.  Plus he ain't even a real American....he's one of them moolatto Afrikans.  He was born in Africa by a tribe of Muslims, don't you know?  Freedom of Speech just like the right to bear arms has gone cuckoo.  Our Founding Fathers are thrashing in their graves. 

Hell, I'm sure the Klan would be burning crosses on the White House lawns too if they could get through security. 

P.S.  I don't believe any of the crap I wrote above.  There is no doubt that the Holocaust DID happen.  After being to Dachau, the Anne Frank House and the Jewish Museums in Prague, there is absolutely no doubt. I've been married to an African American man for 21 years.  We've lived in TX and South Africa.  Very sad to say, but we received more dirty looks in Texas than we did in South Africa, a country free from Apartheid for only 19 years. 

k9ophile
on 4/20/14 2:46 am

As for comparing Obama to Hitler and saying the country has gone straight to hell because of one man...  I remember the same things were said of Bush.  (Probably both of them, but especially the last one.)  I think it comes with the job.  I don't believe it of either, yet it is funny to see one party get upset about saying something they have said themselves.  All politicians are full of it.

MrsLitch
on 4/20/14 1:35 pm - Morris, IL
RNY on 06/04/12

Just don't wear a shirt that says that "c" word to my son's school. They are Cuckoo and banning the clothing line because one person believes it refers to weed. Happy 4/20!

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(deactivated member)
on 4/21/14 5:32 am

I don't believe I am any more circular in my thinking then what our nation really is.  While you may despise what the KKK stands for or your belief of what the KKK stands for they have as much of a right as everyone else.  To deny them the same rights that the rest of the nation holds dear would be self defeating in my eyes.

I guess it could be said that our sons and daughters are in the military helping to ensure everyone's rights to the freedoms that we have come to take for granted.  Including the rights of those who want to refer to those same people as baby killers etc.  They are defending all rights, the abuse of rights is for  a court to decide.

This is where I struggle with so called hate crimes.  A murder is a murder in my eyes, be it a white man, gay man, or a black man, etc.  We seem to be determined to place more value on one form of life then another and we do the same with speech and how it affects individual rights.

Jost Dreams
on 4/22/14 3:49 am

So tell me wise SE Texan, what does this KKK stand for other than hate?  Last time I checked it wasn't baking cookies, meditating or spreading peace and love.  Do you have a pointy white hat in your house or relatives in Vidor?

How can dragging a black man behind a truck in Vidor Klan country be classified as anything but a hate crime?   Hate crime does not place a higher value on a group of society.  In my eyes it is the complete opposite.  The people who commit the hate crimes believe they are superior to those they commit the crimes against. In their eyes the victims are the valueless members of society.

I know it is a waste of my time to discuss this with you.  KKK, racism, bigotry and other **** is deeply embedded in your part of the world and one of the biggest reasons I despise it so much.  You can deny it...I wouldn't expect anything less.

(deactivated member)
on 4/22/14 1:50 pm
On April 22, 2014 at 10:49 AM Pacific Time, Jost Dreams wrote:

So tell me wise SE Texan, what does this KKK stand for other than hate?  Last time I checked it wasn't baking cookies, meditating or spreading peace and love.  Do you have a pointy white hat in your house or relatives in Vidor?

How can dragging a black man behind a truck in Vidor Klan country be classified as anything but a hate crime?   Hate crime does not place a higher value on a group of society.  In my eyes it is the complete opposite.  The people who commit the hate crimes believe they are superior to those they commit the crimes against. In their eyes the victims are the valueless members of society.

I know it is a waste of my time to discuss this with you.  KKK, racism, bigotry and other **** is deeply embedded in your part of the world and one of the biggest reasons I despise it so much.  You can deny it...I wouldn't expect anything less.

This is the beauty in your perception of free speech.. You can toss out any accusation that comes to your mind with or without any true knowledge.  You don't know how I feel about any organization because I've never said so anything you come up with here is simply a creation in your mind and spewed forth for your own gain.

A waste of your time to discuss this.. I don't see where you've discussed anything, I see your post as a fabrication and nothing more then that.   You say  I can deny it.. what is it exactly am I suppose to deny, your random projections of hatred?  Those are on you.. not I.

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