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T Hagalicious Rebel
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on 11/4/17 8:33 am - Brooklyn
VSG on 04/25/14
Topic: RE: How do I retrain my stomach to work the way it did post op?

I'm sorry that you think people were being ugly & that you know that you were eating the wrong foods, but people were pointing out something that you already know. How is that being ugly?

You responded positively to 3BassetteHounds when she pointed out some of the mental hardships we endure over the years. Have you tried therapy or support groups? Maybe this is something to look into?

I'm glad that you gave up all the battered stuff. Do you track your foods? You really have to get a better picture of what you're eating now & work your way back to eat the way you was eating when you first was losing the weight & stick to it.

During the times when you know you can eat more & you want to eat more, look for ways to distract yourself. Either reach out to people, listen to music, go for a walk, etc. Anything to get your mind off of eating more than you planned to eat.

The mental part of this weight loss journey is just as important as the physical one. I wish the best of luck to you.

No one surgery is better than the other, what works for one may not work for another. T-Rebel

https://fivedaymeattest.com/

reinventingme2day
on 11/3/17 3:04 pm
Topic: RE: Low Iron levels -- when to see a hematologist for possible iron infusion

I too had very low Iron once before a year after my surgery. I lost a lot of blood after in an incident dealing with postpartum and I wasnt taking my supplements as needed. I couldn't catch back up with my Iron levels just taking OTC Iron supplements. So I went in for my yearly physical and my normal post op blood tests...I had to get an Iron infusion immediately. That was 5 years ago and I still battle anemia, but I just up my iron supplements when I feel the urge of pica. I do forget my supplements too so that plays a part in the low iron. I have second guessed my increase in Iron supplements a few times and went to my PCP to get blood tested. The increase Iron supplements have always worked.

Sparklekitty, Science-Loving Derby Hag
on 10/31/17 1:16 pm
RNY on 08/05/19
Topic: RE: How do I retrain my stomach to work the way it did post op?

Mashed potatoes, green beans, and rolls are "slider foods" and will go straight through your stomach, allowing you to eat more.

Some people post about what they call a "pouch reset," but it's a fad diet that is completely useless. The only thing that can make your stomach smaller is another surgery, but even then you will still be able to eat slider foods.

Sorry if you think that medical truth is "REAL ugly."

Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!

(deactivated member)
on 10/31/17 12:50 pm
Topic: RE: How do I retrain my stomach to work the way it did post op?

People here truly want to help. I think when they read something like this there are so many people who like to be trouble makers and stir up the pot.

We all don't want to be put in the group of people who like to roll their eyes when you tell them about WLS. It sucks to hear about someone gaining all their weight back and not doing anything about it.

I don't drink shakes. The only reason I will drink a shake is if I am on the run. Like if I am doing a walk and I am not hungry. But most of the time I eat real food.

I am glad you got rid of the carbs in the house. Coming here and asking for help is the first step.

There is a group called getting back on track. A lot of times our minds tell us we are hungry. And we are not. I try to drink something before I eat. It does stop me from going overboard.

Stick to dense protein and try to focus on that. It is a long process of food addiction that I deal with. Also others.

I know if I wait to eat for a long period of time. I can go off the rails.

Go to the menu post daily. Try to ask for help. Also try not to take it personally. I did delete my first account here. I was really offended. But I know now they were trying to really help me.

Take it one meal at a time. Make lists of things you want to do in life. Not always easy. But doable.

cynthia1970
on 10/31/17 12:29 pm
Topic: RE: How do I retrain my stomach to work the way it did post op?

Thank you for your reply. Everyone else has been really ugly... I mean REAL ugly. I know I'm not eating the right foods, that's why I'm asking for help on what to eat. I'm not an uneducated troll as I was called. My stomach is able to hold to much food at a time. I can eat 2 pieces of chicken, mashed potatoes and green beans and still have room for a roll. That is what I was referring to in saying I wanted to retain my stomach. I heard others talk about it in the past and I know it can be done. I know I need to get rid of the carbs and I've done that this week. I've gotten rid of all the fries, battered fish, Hot Pockets, etc.

How do you get that much protein in? Do you drink shakes?

(deactivated member)
on 10/31/17 6:03 am
Topic: RE: How do I retrain my stomach to work the way it did post op?

We need to train our minds. For me I know I can think something ten different ways and think it is a bad idea. Then say it another way and it seems okay.

Life can be hard with everything that happens. Everyone has bad stuff happen and good.

If you still feel restriction then it is possible. Think back to when you started out before surgery why you wanted it.

Get in your pantry and clean out the crap. Think about what you can eat not what we shouldn't.

I have had some weight gain. I know I still have restriction. Realizing we are worth it and deserve to be happy and healthy.

ladygodiva1228
on 10/31/17 4:25 am - Putnam, CT
Revision on 02/04/15
Topic: RE: How do I retrain my stomach to work the way it did post op?
On October 30, 2017 at 8:16 PM Pacific Time, cynthia1970 wrote:

I usually eat oatmeal for breakfast, wheat crackers and cheese for snack (or Nabs (peanut butter filled cheese crackers)), lunch is usually battered fish and fries or a Hot Pocket, mid day snack is usually more crackers or gramhcrackers dinner is typically fish or venison with a starch and sometimes a veggie. I usually drink a 2L of Dt. Dr. Pepper a day. I'm trying to cut down on the soda and drink more water but it's hard.

If you're not a troll then you have lost 100% lost sight of how to eat after WLS. It appears that the majority of your daily meals are loaded with unhealthy foods and carbs.

There is no training your stomach to be like it was when you first had surgery. You now have to do the work. If you don't want to change what you eat then you will never be able to lose weight.

Best of luck because you are going to need it.

Dr. Sanchez Lapband 9/12/2003
hw305/revision w280/cw197/gw150

Revision from Lap Band to Bypass on 2/4/2015 by Dr. Pohl

    

jenorama
on 10/30/17 4:04 pm - CA
RNY on 10/07/13
Topic: RE: How do I retrain my stomach to work the way it did post op?

The venison and the fish are a good start, but as others have said drop the breaded/fried fish. Go back to eating protein forward like you did at the beginning and I imagine you'll find that you fill up on less than you thought you would. When you have dinner, maybe try going in stages? Eat all of your protein first and give yourself a few minutes before having any vegetables. If you feel full on just the protein, that's great! Don't force yourself to eat the vegetables just because they're on your plate. Also switch the starchy vegetables out for less starchy ones. Starchy vegetables can have the same problem as crackers and such--they're softer and mash down to nothing.

I would suggest finding something different than oatmeal for breakfast. The problem with things like oatmeal and crackers is that they smash down to nothing and will slip easily through your pouch opening and into your intestines, causing you to eat more as you chase the full feeling. You want something that's going to stay with you for a while and keep you feeling full longer and the best bang for your buck is going to be dense protein. Maybe an egg and a sausage link or patty instead?

Also watch out for habits you've fallen into like having a certain snack with a TV show. Be aware of and try to redirect those behaviors. Regarding the soda, I'm not one who believes that carbonation will alter your pouch, so as long as it's not full of sugar and carbonation doesn't cause you discomfort, that's fine. Just make sure you don't drink while you eat and not sooner than 30-60 minutes after.

You still have your tool and you can still be successful.

Jen

Sparklekitty, Science-Loving Derby Hag
on 10/30/17 3:57 pm
RNY on 08/05/19
Topic: RE: How do I retrain my stomach to work the way it did post op?

Small wonder you've regained weight-- anybody would put weight back on with so many carbs, regardless of calorie intake.

To lose weight, you need to go back to basics. Find the instructions you received from your surgeon, which will probably look like this:

  • ~800 calories per day
  • Under 25g carbs
  • 60 - 80+ g protein

Ditch the carbs and go straight for lean, dense protein, MAYBE a bite of veg after if you have room.

Your pouch works EXACTLY the way now that it did when you were a new post-op, the only difference is (probably) what you're putting in it. If you can out-eat an RNY, you can most certainly out-eat a revision.

Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!

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