If you're so well versed in weight loss options why are you still fat?

There are recent posts on the VSG forums about the Keto way of eating, actually - it's definitely something that many utilize.

Has anyone looked at or done a ketogenic diet?

I'm five years out, been at the same weight for four of those years, and really felt the longing for onederland. It seems as though doing the same thing and expecting different results seems really dumb.

And I hope you take your blinders off someday. But you won't. Know why? Because you've had the surgery. You're stuck with it whether you have doubts about it or not. So you become a cheerleader for it. You've got a lot of your self-identity tied up in it, so you defend it like an attack dog. And the last thing you want to admit is that you made a mistake. Everyone hates admitting they made a mistake, especially a big one like this. You seem to be doing well, and I'm glad, but the simple fact is you didn't need to do it. Sorry! I guess that makes you feel bad, but instead of continuing to rant at me, why not spend your energy helping other people not make the same mistake?

Why do you think you lose weight and improve other things after surgery? It's because you are eating VERY little. Because you are FASTING.

Bariatric surgery is just surgically enforced fasting! You make fun of fasting for losing weight and improving health, but how do you think you did it? By fasting! Can you give me any other mechanism by which you think surgery works except for the fact that it forces you to fast? No, because there aren't any. You chose to force yourself to fast. I'm doing the same, except I'm doing it by choice and without surgery.

Here, I'll give you a link. Just one. Now, it starts off with a long section about how well bariatric surgery works - and it does work. But be sure to read all the way down to the section that says "Bariatrics versus fasting". Note that I found this after about 4 seconds of searching. There is much, much more proof.

https://idmprogram.com/bariatrics-surgically-enforced-fastin g-t2d-6/

Thanks. I see you lost a lot of weight too, I'm glad. It may have taken 4 years, but we don't control what happens in our lives. I wish I had known what I know now 25 years ago.

The horrible statistics for people who gain weight back are due to the fact that for 50 years the medical field have given them crappy, incorrect, and laughably false information on how to lose weight. It never works, as you point out. They said "don't eat cholesterol, it gives you high cholesterol", and they were wrong. They told people "don't eat fat, it makes you fat", and they were wrong. They said "eat lots of carbs, it will make you healthy", and they were wrong. They said "you can lose weight by doing tons of exercise", and they were mostly wrong (exercise is definitely healthy, but as a weight loss device it sucks).

If people were getting quality information instead of lies, and being sold all kinds of stupid diets and medical procedures just to make the food companies, hospitals, and surgeons rich, the success rate would be much higher. That's one of the reasons I try to help.