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Because "WLShelp.com" was created in 2002 and not available for the site's founders to use? 
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=wlshelp.com
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
It's a public forum. If YOU don't like what I'm saying, then don't read it. Why don'y you leave ME out of your "personal process"? Go on and do your thing, I'm not stopping you. We can all be here together. You are free to not read or repsond to what I say at all. If you disike it, why are you even wasting time reading this thread?
Believe me, hearing from people like you IS "licking the spoon". Your father is clearly another person who want to maintain the staus quo. My response to him is "those who DON'T stir the pot should be forced to live in a world where no one does." By his logic, the people who founded the country would be bad guys. If you don't stir the pot, the food doesn't cook right, and it burns on the bottom. So his aphorism is pretty moronic.
And why did you put "you" in quotations?
The post-WLS diet is "miserable?" News to me.
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
A single case is not sufficient proof in the medical/scientific world :)
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
http://www.eje-online.org/content/174/1/R19.full.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3920787/
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
Yes, there is absolutely a risk of regaining weight after surgery. But the likelihood to regain, as well as the amount gained back, is significantly lower after WLS versus with diet-modification only,
The point is (and this is the reason I opted out) that you CAN still regain weight. You have to maintain a special diet, not just immediately post-surgically, but for life. If you don't, you regain the weight.
So I asked myself: "If I have to eat that way even after the surgery, for the rest of my life, why do I need the surgery? I could just eat that way anyways without it." If, after surgery, I could eat all the great stuff I eat now and STILL lose weight, it might be a consideration for me. But I'd never be able to eat the way I eat now (which is not the way I used to eat, to be sure) if I had WLS. And I like enjoying food. I just do it differently, and a lot smarter now. I don't feel deprived when I'm fasting because I know I will be able to eat delicious stuff again soon. Knowing that I would never be able to eat whatever I want again, and was stuck for life with the miserable diet WLS requires, I'd be really unhappy. Now I get the best of both worlds, yay - eating what I want AND getting super healthy.
The fact is that if you ate the exact post-surgical diet even without having the surgery, you would see the same results. The fact is that WLS still requires you to have lots of discipline in your eating even afterwards. The only actual difference is that, post-surgery, it's actually painful/unpleasant to eat too much.
We all agree that in ALL cases, life changes are required to be successful. I find the life changes required by fasting to be far, far easier and better than the ones required by WLS.
on 3/12/18 2:23 pm - WI
Congrats on your success. Here's an idea. Why don't you do "you" and leave everyone else out of your personal process. We'll continue to do our own thing here. Since you obviously have the magical cure all for obesity, you don't need a support website...right? If we fail then that's on us. You have no responsibility to inform. We have all done a ton of research. None of us have jumped into surgery.
You are just trying to stir the pot here. My dad always said, "Those who choose to stir the **** pot should be forced to lick the spoon".
HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)
VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010
Bariatric surgery causes lasting metabolic changes that aren't seen with IF.
Welcome back to your argument, BTW, we've missed you!
Really? And what do you imagine they are? Proof, please.
I'm not a hater, I'm a helper. I'm here to warn people who haven't already cut up their bodies that there are better ways to get the same results. There's certainly nothing here for me to "learn", other than what I already knew - people are so scared that they might have been wrong that they take it personally when they find out they are and react like children.
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