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Mean, nasty and hateful? You mean, like accusing people of being WLS shills, being suckered in by Big Bariatric, and not understanding or having an interest in their own health?
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
The fact that you seem to think Google anecdotes en mass are of similar quality as controlled medical studies would explain a lot about this conversation.
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
You said: "Bariatric surgery causes lasting metabolic changes that aren't seen with IF."
The links you posted prove no such thing. I didn't say WLS did not have metabolic effects. The changes mentioned are all also seen with IF. You're the one who needs to educate yourself about something you clearly are completely uninformed about.
Good luck with your diet. I hope you can achieve long-term success. I'm finished.
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
Questioning assumptions in a mean, nasty, hateful way , like almost everyone did, is reacting like a child. And you are the only one who posted any scientific links. The ones that were valid weren't applicable to the discussion.
You posted links and arguments that show WLS works, but you were responding to an argument that I wasn't making. I never said it didn't work. I said there are other, nonsurgical ways to get the exact same results.
The post-WLS diet is "miserable?" News to me.
I think it is. At least the examples I was given
But you would know more about it than I do. After WLS, can you eat whatever you want, however much you want, any time you want, with no restrictions?
I can (I just often choose not to for varying periods).
You're telling me that post-WLS people can just go right back to eating the same things as always?
>> You're telling me that post-WLS people can just go right back to eating the same things as always?
I said no such thing. :)
Check the "What's on your menu" threads in the VSG and RNY sections of the forums, if you're so inclined. People are eating all sorts of tasty things after surgery!
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
Because "WLShelp.com" was created in 2002 and not available for the site's founders to use? 
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=wlshelp.com
Too bad they weren't creative enough to find some other variation. Clearly, "WLShelp" and "Obesityhelp" are the ONLY two POSSIBLE ways to express the concept of "assistance for WLS patients".
The post-WLS diet is "miserable?" News to me.
I think it is. At least the examples I was given
But you would know more about it than I do. After WLS, can you eat whatever you want, however much you want, any time you want, with no restrictions?
I can (I just often choose not to for varying periods).
You're telling me that post-WLS people can just go right back to eating the same things as always?
A single case is not sufficient proof in the medical/scientific world :)
I quite agree. Anecdote != data. Unfortunately for you, I am just one of many thousands who prove it every day. Feel free to google it.
You said: "Bariatric surgery causes lasting metabolic changes that aren't seen with IF."
The links you posted prove no such thing. I didn't say WLS did not have metabolic effects. The changes mentioned are all also seen with IF. You're the one who needs to educate yourself about something you clearly are completely uninformed about.
Questioning your assumptions and providing links to scientific research is "reacting like a child?"
Damn, must be some smart kiddos out there.
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
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