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Greek yogurt, cheese, can you eat eggs? Protein powders, cottage cheese
I still use Eggface's blog for good meal ideas. I also surf the menu thread in the RNY forum for ideas on what other people are eating.
Do you like any kind of nuts like almonds or cashews? That's what the dietician suggested when I had the same question.
SW 327
GW 150
CW 126
Do you like any kind of nuts like almonds or cashews? That's what the dietician suggested when I had the same question.
SW 327
GW 150
CW 126
I lost 120 per cent of my excess weight in under 6 months, almost 14 years ago. Still alive, still normal weight. Looking forward to your regular updates.
Having chili for dinner, just in case you think I'm eating something miserable 
Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist
on 3/12/18 4:12 pm - WI
Well said, Donna!
HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)
VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010
on 3/12/18 3:59 pm, edited 3/12/18 9:02 am - WI
I pride myself in not blocking people that I disagree with. I have always thought that I can learn from anyone even through conflict. With you...I may reconsider that position. You are more concerned with being right than having a productive conversation. You have come to OH for no other reason than to **** people off. If you want to help people with their obesity issue you might want to change your approach. You can post anything you want but you have chosen to preach your truth to people who have already chosen the WLS path. Why? Surely your passion for intermittent fasting would be better suited on a different site.
My dad died 6 years ago. He was the wisest man I know. Your disrespect is an ugly thing.
HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)
VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010
Curious to know how you are living proof. Pic? Weight? How much do/did you have to lose?
I'm not a hater, I'm a helper. I'm here to warn people who haven't already cut up their bodies that there are better ways to get the same results. There's certainly nothing here for me to "learn", other than what I already knew - people are so scared that they might have been wrong that they take it personally when they find out they are and react like children.
This is why you are getting what you consider to be a hostile response. There are not better ways to get results - that's a gross assumption.
I consider that fasting is good for many people and not everyone; and conversely, the same with surgery. This may be a shock - however not all diets or methods of health work for every single human being. A ketogenic diet would severely damage someone with acute intermittent porphyria, for instance. You need to let go of your attachments to fasting and put aside your reluctance to consider other opinions. If fasting is superior, provide an analysis of 10-year results from weight loss surgery patients with 10-year results from people who have only fasted, for instance, assuming both groups have similar morbid obesity.
If you are going to make blanket assumptions without understanding the underlying mechanisms behind both fasting and surgery, you are not going to get very far in convincing others of your perspective. Right now you are basically turning away people from fasting, quite honestly, rather than letting people know.
I am a counselor, and people have already tried fasting before they turn to surgery in many cases. You might want to take a look at why they still turn to surgery, rather than continuing to engage in blanket statements without actual understanding as to why people get surgery.
I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either!
It is not that we have so little time but that we lose so much...the life we receive is not short but we make it so; we are not ill provided but use what we have wastefully. -- Seneca, On the Shortness of Life
IDM has a new monthly program that my friend Brenda works for as a consultant. If you want fasting support I suggest utilizing that.
In my case, I had trouble with fasting causing weight loss because I was once 750 pounds. The metabolic consequences of severe obesity often need drastic correction. There is a drastic difference between each stage of obesity. In my case, frankly I wanted a more permanent solution, and fasting is not permanent. It also does not reset your metabolism in the space of a few months.
My statements are based on literally thousands of articles about weight loss surgery, but here's one to start. While fasting has a few similar mechanisms, they are not permanent nor do they correct insulin resistance immediately. Surgery does so quickly that many people cease taking their diabetic medications within a week, particularly with the gastric bypass. Here's an example as to why. If you are familiar with the Break Nutrition podcast, Gabor Erdoski and I have had several conversations about surgery actually (he's frequently a guest on it). The differences between surgery and fasting are night and day.
Most bariatric patients I've worked with are familiar with fasting and ketogenic diets and they have failed where surgery works. The metabolic changes surgery produces also affect the brain in the same fashion, as well as the fact that it involves several months of behavioral changes. It's not a panacea.
It is, however, effective at maintaining significant weight loss in over 95% of people who get it. There are many statistics on that all over.
Fasting isn't inefficient, however it's not superior to weight loss surgery. That's a gross misunderstanding. Nor is surgery superior to fasting. It has a more powerful and more immediate metabolic effect, and these change depending on the type of surgery. This is one of the things we address in the podcast that I contributed to some time ago.
I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either!
It is not that we have so little time but that we lose so much...the life we receive is not short but we make it so; we are not ill provided but use what we have wastefully. -- Seneca, On the Shortness of Life
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