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H.A.L.A B.
on 3/12/18 7:24 pm
Topic: RE: Is there ANYONE here who is NOT getting surgery?

You just doing the IF for 6 months.

Do it successfully for 6+ years with no major regain and then I may think you have a valid points.

I was overweight most of my life. Most, not all. Because I would work really hard do anything possible, lose ALL the excess weight.... Only to gain it back 2-3 years later. There was not one diet methods I did not try, including IF with Keto-paleo.

And every single time I would regain not only what I lost but I few more pounds.

At 47 I realized that my body got used to all of the diet, fasting, cleanses, etc etc...and I would lose 2-3 lbs only to regain it.

Did I like the idea of wls? Nope. First time I thought about it - I read and research all and decided I don't want it, that I could do it all on my own. And I did. I lost the excessive fat, and got really trim and fit, with muscles. I was very active person. But within a few years, with back issues, steroids injections, age, etc, I slowly regained what I lost.

RNY or any WLS should be the last resort. It was for me. I lost all my excess weight within 10 months and maintain it. I had a temporary weight regain, but I dealt with that.

I have some complications,- but I think that I had my WLS too late in my life. Damage was already done to my body with yoyo dieting over my 35 years ..

I have been maintaining my weight loss by following simple steps. I eat until I am full, but eat mindfully. I eat proteins and fat and some carbs.

I follow IF most of the time, but I have a freedom of eating what my body needs.

I can eat a reasonable portion. I eat cheese, and meats, eggs, good fat (butter) or nuts.

The RNY allows me to be satisfied with smaller portions. I don't need to gorge myself.

WLS is a major help for obesity. I think of WLS as major step in helping the obesity. At the present time - WLS offer people a chance of losing weight and keeping it off. It is a tool.

Like my cataract surgery that removed and replaced my lenses. Or Lasik surgery that help me see better.

I wish you well. But I am saddened by your judgement. I hope you can be one of the 5% who can lose weight by diet and exercise and maintain that long-term.

I used to be like you. Until one day my body refused to lose any weight and keeping it off. And I chose to have WLS. Because that gave me a chance to be normal weight.

You have not tried it all or done it all. Lose and maintain for at least 6 years. Then try to help others.

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

CJ On Orcas
on 3/12/18 6:21 pm
RNY on 09/09/16
Topic: RE: High Protein diet

Greek yogurt, cheese, can you eat eggs? Protein powders, cottage cheese

CJ On Orcas
on 3/12/18 6:20 pm
RNY on 09/09/16
Topic: RE: Close to goal but lost on what to eat

I still use Eggface's blog for good meal ideas. I also surf the menu thread in the RNY forum for ideas on what other people are eating.

Kathleen W.
on 3/12/18 6:03 pm - Lancaster, PA
Topic: RE: Close to goal but lost on what to eat

Do you like any kind of nuts like almonds or cashews? That's what the dietician suggested when I had the same question.

SW 327
GW 150
CW 126

                                      

Kathleen W.
on 3/12/18 6:02 pm - Lancaster, PA
Topic: RE: Close to goal but lost on what to eat

Do you like any kind of nuts like almonds or cashews? That's what the dietician suggested when I had the same question.

SW 327
GW 150
CW 126

                                      

Citizen Kim
on 3/12/18 4:36 pm, edited 3/12/18 11:25 pm - Castle Rock, CO
Topic: RE: Is there ANYONE here who is NOT getting surgery?

I lost 120 per cent of my excess weight in under 6 months, almost 14 years ago. Still alive, still normal weight. Looking forward to your regular updates.

Having chili for dinner, just in case you think I'm eating something miserable

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

rocky513
on 3/12/18 4:12 pm - WI
Topic: RE: Is there ANYONE here who is NOT getting surgery?

Well said, Donna!

HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)

VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010

rocky513
on 3/12/18 3:59 pm, edited 3/12/18 9:02 am - WI
Topic: RE: Is there ANYONE here who is NOT getting surgery?

I pride myself in not blocking people that I disagree with. I have always thought that I can learn from anyone even through conflict. With you...I may reconsider that position. You are more concerned with being right than having a productive conversation. You have come to OH for no other reason than to **** people off. If you want to help people with their obesity issue you might want to change your approach. You can post anything you want but you have chosen to preach your truth to people who have already chosen the WLS path. Why? Surely your passion for intermittent fasting would be better suited on a different site.

My dad died 6 years ago. He was the wisest man I know. Your disrespect is an ugly thing.

HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)

VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010

CJ On Orcas
on 3/12/18 3:33 pm
RNY on 09/09/16
Topic: RE: Is there ANYONE here who is NOT getting surgery?

Curious to know how you are living proof. Pic? Weight? How much do/did you have to lose?

Donna L.
on 3/12/18 3:24 pm - Chicago, IL
Revision on 02/19/18
Topic: RE: Is there ANYONE here who is NOT getting surgery?
On March 12, 2018 at 9:17 PM Pacific Time, Finsternis wrote:

I'm not a hater, I'm a helper. I'm here to warn people who haven't already cut up their bodies that there are better ways to get the same results. There's certainly nothing here for me to "learn", other than what I already knew - people are so scared that they might have been wrong that they take it personally when they find out they are and react like children.

This is why you are getting what you consider to be a hostile response. There are not better ways to get results - that's a gross assumption.

I consider that fasting is good for many people and not everyone; and conversely, the same with surgery. This may be a shock - however not all diets or methods of health work for every single human being. A ketogenic diet would severely damage someone with acute intermittent porphyria, for instance. You need to let go of your attachments to fasting and put aside your reluctance to consider other opinions. If fasting is superior, provide an analysis of 10-year results from weight loss surgery patients with 10-year results from people who have only fasted, for instance, assuming both groups have similar morbid obesity.

If you are going to make blanket assumptions without understanding the underlying mechanisms behind both fasting and surgery, you are not going to get very far in convincing others of your perspective. Right now you are basically turning away people from fasting, quite honestly, rather than letting people know.

I am a counselor, and people have already tried fasting before they turn to surgery in many cases. You might want to take a look at why they still turn to surgery, rather than continuing to engage in blanket statements without actual understanding as to why people get surgery.

I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either!

It is not that we have so little time but that we lose so much...the life we receive is not short but we make it so; we are not ill provided but use what we have wastefully. -- Seneca, On the Shortness of Life

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