In your first post on the subject, you included a link to check on BMR.

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Jenni, when taken in context wheat I said was that some people see WLS as a microwave solution, in other words they see it as a "lose weight fast plan". You will never see me saying that it is because I know different from the people that I interact with n a daily basis.

Liz, please show me where I indicated that WLS is easy because you won't find it. It's very hard. I was just speaking with one of our patients this evening before class and she was telling me that after multiple attempts to "fix" various issues she is going to have to have her surgery corrected and is starting almost at square one. In our orientation seminars we always stress that surgery is NOT the easy way out and I have never said anything to the contrary. I am exceedingly blessed to have none of the issues so many morbidly obese people deal with: no diabetes, no hypertension, no cholesterol problems, no joint issues, none of the health issues normally associated with people who weigh what I weigh, and the reason I demanded to be put in our Weight Loss program was because I knew exactly how lucky I was/am and I was smart enough to know that I was on borrowed time. Just from talking with our surgery patients and attending support groups I know how hard it is. I opted for the Medically Managed Program our clinic offers because I had to learn how to have a healthy relationship with food and exercise. I absolutely can commiserate wu=ith people such as yourself with so many issues that it makes an already hard task that much harder, and I can sympathize with you and genuinely feel sorry for your situation.

I'm the research specialist in my office, it's a large part of my job... That being said most people I've chatted with on the boards know how to do correct research.

The thing is I don't think you're listening. A good percentage of the people on the boards already track their food, exercise, and have done the emotional and mental work to keep the weight off. Some of us go to regular support groups, see our nutritionist, and get our vitamin levels checked. I would even go a far as to say about 30% or more have done a program similar to yours.

For some people, such as myself, I did the same type of program run by a major university that had fantastic results. 85 pounds down I got extremely sick and couldn't move much, put a lot of the weight back on over the course of 18 months. Once they diagnosed my heath issues and I got better and could move. I went back to the program, but my BMR was messed up from different diets and exercise I done to lose weight. Even eating less then 1,200 cal a day I would gain weight. I had other weight related issues and needed the weight off fast BUT how to do that when my BMR was basically broken? Well, I researched the problem and found out is was more common then I or my doctors realized. If I had the correct weight loss surgery, one that is actually used in Europe to treat Type 2 Diabetes, I would lose the most of the weight, the other health issues would decrease, and I would never become Diabetic.

I wasn't looking for a quick fix, this has been just as much work if not more then when I did the other program. I still track everything I eat, plan my meals out a few weeks in advanced, watch my micro, and exercise DAILY! When I go out to eat, I search online to see what I can have, I might even call ahead to see if they will let me order off the children's menu (not often because it's normally not very healthy). I eat no bread, pasta, rice, or high carb fruit. My meals are protein and vegetable based. I don't drink soda, only coffee, tea, and water.

I'm sure you've learned that not everyone doing your program is successful because they don't don't do the work? Well, it's the same with weight loss surgery. You have to do the hard work and keep at it. It's not a free ride, HELL it's not easy BUT if you put the work in both physically and mentally it will help you get to your goal. It's a tool, like anything else.

You came here judging us for taking "the easy" way out instead of doing the hard work. We just need more will power, better doctors, etc... What you don't know is we've (most of us) know what your saying can work sometimes, it failed us and yes, we put the work in too. Things break (BMR), people get to a point where surgery is the only option. You're judging them/me/us for doing what we feel is BEST for US. Get off your ******g high horse and realize that we are all on the same side, the one trying to get healthy and have some grace to realize WLS has saved lives. IF you can't understand this, I feel sorry for you.

Liz,

Our nutritionist got her MS in Nutrition just two years ago from Baylor University. Our fitness trainer graduated last year from IU with a degree in Kinesiology and two professional training certificates, our office manager was himself a patient who had surgery, and the other two medical professional on the staff have a combined 40 years specializing in weight loss. I have individual appointments regularly with all four and not once have they ever contradicted each other. As for the "research" you do, University studies have shown that 71% of the content on the internet is complete BS and that was BEFORE social media became a deal. Here's some additional statistic, that percentage increases dramatically when it comes to weight loss and proper nutrition, and personal experience has taught me that. Their teaching also rings true with what I learned in college. Fact is, the body hasn't changed how it processes food, and the foundation to weight loss will ALWAYS be calories consumed vs. calories burned. To be completely honest, there is only one number I pay attention to from our clinic's "fancy scales" and it's called "body weight". Other wise I track my food intake and my exercise on myfitnesspal.com. I really don't need any other tools, and it's my opinion that you really don't either. I appreciate your input though.