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btm61
on 12/23/18 1:52 pm
Topic: RE: Fad diets Fail

Private,

The first thing you are going to have to get over is that there is nothing that could be called "reality" in the "Reality TV" genre, it simply does not exist. Second, any diet that includes meal skipping (or fasting. if you prefer) or meal replacement shakes, is also doomed to fail. Why? What happens when you achieve your weight goal and start eating three meals per day? I'm not an MD but I can answer that question. So what you have done is taken the information gathered by a "team" that believes fasting is THE way to lose weight and call all other non-fasting programs failures. Again, I don't have a PhD but even I can tell what's going on there. Just make sure you ante up.

I don't have anyone yelling at me to push harder, I do that myself. Just last week I was asked what my "secret" was, and I replied that there was no secret, it's just a matter of making the numbers work in my favor and that's what I do. Sure I have days where I blow it, just like everyone else, but then I get back on the horse and start over again. Each day, each hour, each minute that I use those numbers in my favor, get's me closer to my goal, and you and everyone else on this forum who says I won't do it, won't deter me. I wish you nothing but the best on your journey.

PrivateCitizen
on 12/23/18 1:50 pm
Topic: RE: AspireAssist

I have read up on this and 3 things I recall..none of it is attractive in any way, IMHO, and I will say so.

1. You CAN'T eat too much at once- no matter how starved you feel or how good the food smells, or tastes, or if you waited too long before you ate or how quickly you must get back to work, or a meeting with the boss, a crying baby, etc. rushed eating will be bad. I think a big bowl of popcorn is out of the question forever (my favorite snack), or chewing it to paste before swallowing. ugh.

2 you will forever be standing over a TOILET- maybe a dirty toilet in a gas station or airport toilet someday- or onto the ground if traveling by car on a rural road, and manually turning the dial and watching the (smelly?) masticated grey/pink mess pour into the toilet. a REMINDER of your decision to need a device to tie you to a toilet, or bucket, or paper cup in an emergency. Will you begin to hate your decision? Can you just stop, and not use the device, or must it be removed entirely. I bet you do.

3 you MUST stick to a 20-30 min empty routine post eating ..so planning eating around work meetings, baby needs, a picnic in July, christmas party at someone's house, and knowing WHERE a toilet is at the right time. the semi acid digested food needs to be removed on time,or you get all the calories into your intestines as usual? I don't know.

I think people saw it like the lap band, an easy solution, no major surgery, risk of long time under anesthesia (risky for high BMI patients) cost, but I am betting too much food, a birthday cake that is irresistible in TASTE will get people into great abdominal pain. Even a big vitamin pill may be out and you must pay for liquid ones, at $$ cost, for life.

OK I painted a dark picture, but over 4 years I have researched all WL methods, joined every FB support page on each, seen hundreds of youtube "my story" videos on various methods, especially ones with unexpected problems, to know the WORST I must consider as a possibility. because it COULD happen to me.

This article talks about you MUST chew slowly and thoroughly or BLOCKAGE can occur. think- popcorn. This may be the same as a lap-band distorting the stomach, causing strictures and fibrous lumps as the body grows around it to tolerate a foreign object. And problems removing it years later, with no other WLS option possible. (as lap banders say)

My last negative image is observing a world in which so MUCH food is available that obesity is the norm over the misery of starvation, and wealthy westerners so over fed on great and bad food require a $$ manual 'dumping' purge..like the Romans using a tickle feather, handed to them by a slave, to stick in their throat, in the official 'vomitorium'. And then go back and feast again. Will it come to that? Will anorexia fears and issues INCREASE, in obese people!?

THE OBESITY EPIDEMIC IS WORSENING, NEW REPORT SAYS

https://www.wxxv25.com/2018/12/20/the-obesity-epidemic-is-worsening-new-report-says/?fbclid=IwAR0jrrx-N4FI2Fj0YGj8dfzT9CCNBWL6dgWBdS2xYPXW-EBrV9DMHa-yW-o

The psychology of this decision is what bothers me. How do you see yourself, how do you manage others view/judgement of you (as they do when we are obese). This may be medically a life saver for someone, and totally worth it.

But I can visualize a woman being in the bathroom at work to dump on time, she is standing in front of the toilet, like a man, shoes pointed forward, the possible stench, and plopping liquid sounds co-workers may hear..their questioning face when you exit the stall. Will you have to tell what that was. Will they assume you are secret transgender? so many images on the reality of living with this device. Can it get INFECTED from accidentally touching a dirty toilet edge (how long is the tube for a tall person, a short person, or public sink, etc. when you tidy up. when do you wash the tube out? does it need to be sterilized often so you can reconnect it next time? I am certain I am missing a few daily tasks required.

https://www.highya.com/aspireassist-reviews

PrivateCitizen
on 12/23/18 12:25 pm
Topic: RE: Things I'm learning

Every 500 calories that one ingests BELOW that BMR number represents one pound lost. ??

you mean 500 calories less a DAY over a WEEK, from your BMR is supposed to result in 1 pound loss? That is how it is normally expressed. is that was you mean?

Unfortunately we are not bunsen burners, take fat, add flame, see it burn. As Julia said, and I also experienced, that never takes into consideration age, disability, genetics, hormone levels, a lifetime of bad diets followed faithfully, until a new one was lauded as better, etc. You F* with your insulin enough times and it stops believing you, and results to what IT knows is best, keeps weight on you to protect from that next crazy famine thing you seem to get, so our WILL and belief that 500 calories or 1,000 less a day results 52 or 104 lbs lost a year...exactly, if one is perfect.

95-99% failure rate can only indicate the method we 'believe' is wrong.

As Erma Bombeck, the 1960s comedian sad "

"In two decades I've lost a total of 789 pounds. I should be hanging from a charm bracelet."

Because by THAT 500 calorie less logic the body would ALLOW us to KEEP doing that, until we disappear, or die.

PrivateCitizen
on 12/23/18 11:55 am
Topic: RE: Fad diets Fail

I am always glad to offer the link to the study I refer to, otherwise I force the person to search by random guessing of key words. with millions of studies on pubmed.gov alone it can be impossible. And thousands of medical and weight loss studies and reports and nutrition are in magazines, and online.

Many people are genuinely wanting information to help them, It is respect for the OP that causes someone, like me, to ask instead of being stuck with fruitless searching. I always search on my own quickly because "google' is my friend, after all, an I enjoy turning up links to other studies of interest but then I ask when that fails.

For instance, the ridiculous TV 'shaming' FAD diet that forced people to puke, and cry, and humble themselves on Biggest Loser has been studied. 6 years later ALL but one has regained all their weight. and more. This people had intense supervision, support, encouragement, free gym equipment, were given awards like trips to Hawaii...so how did they all regain 100 pounds? With the world and their family and entire town knowing their success, and rooting for them? was that not enough to keep them going? not even!

I highly recommend reading this excellent, fact finding study of why they were DOOMED. And it is not laziness, or lack of willpower (some kept at 2-3 hrs of exercise a day)

https://idmprogram.com/the-biggest-loser-diet-fasting22/

btm61
on 12/23/18 7:39 am
Topic: RE: Fad diets Fail

Private, I assume since you are on the internet you can find the same research I did. I'm not in the habit of defending myself from those who "know". How about you find a serious study that refutes my claims and show me that link? The study of which I spoke measured folks who were in programs exactly like the one I am in; consistent and regular monitoring of both physical and psychological progress, regular appointments with a nutritionist, and regular and consistent exercise programs by a professionally educated physiologist. I too have used many differing programs over the years and not only not lost weight, but actually gained weight. Now that I am on this program I am on I have experienced serious weight loss. Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong, but the numbers and my experience won't support you at all.

PrivateCitizen
on 12/23/18 3:58 am
Topic: RE: Things I'm learning

how on earth can you drag in non related 'beliefs' and 'truths'?

You lose credibility because you say what YOU believe is best, and another who does not meet your belief system must be wrong in ALL things.

You are probably totally correct on the DEXA, but please, bringing in political beliefs, claims and prejudices is not about weight loss.

and the globe HAS been warming and cooling forever, specifically you mean "man made global warming"...and see, that is your opinion, you are probably aware that many do not agree on carbon ratios, or ocean heat, etc.

I learned something from what you said about DEXA, so mission accomplished.

PrivateCitizen
on 12/22/18 10:21 pm
Topic: RE: Fad diets Fail

always post the link or how to find a reference like that, it helps those who want to real the full study for themselves. thanks

btm61
on 12/18/18 5:45 pm
Topic: RE: Fad diets Fail

Julia S., Yes I do have an update, having weighed in earlier today. I held my own, no gain no loss over the last month. My exercise regime has decreased by about 1000 calories less burned each week because of the winter months so I'm looking for new ways to exercise over the winter. Things like cross country skiing and other outdoor things. Our Fitness Trainer at the Clinic will be introducing some new classes in the New Year so I'm looking forward to trying those out, however our clinic will be shut down 4 days over the next two weeks due to the Holidays so I'll be spending more time at Planet Fitness on those days, excepting Christmas. We do have a facility in town that has racquetball courts so I'm looking into that as well. In the past my weight has prevented me from doing any of these activities but I'm leaner and stronger and feel more ready to take these things on. Still at 85 net pounds lost.

Our trainer asked us to set new fitness goals for next year so here goes: 1) complete a 5K in less than 65 minutes (I was at 78 this fall), and 2) ride a bike path through our county next summer totalling 38 miles round trip (I haven't been on a bike in more than 30 years). I'm excited to work to reach these goals. I love challenges and these two will stretch me considerably. As for weight loss goals, between 75 and 100 pounds in 2019.

I still have about 150 pounds to go to reach the top end of my "ideal" range and roughly 180 to the bottom end so there is plenty of work to do but I am really enjoying the journey.

Thanks for asking.

Julia S.
on 12/18/18 10:21 am - Beaverton, OR
RNY on 02/12/18
Topic: RE: Fad diets Fail

Any update on your progress?

5'5" Age 67 HW 291 SW 275.8 CW 172.9

Liz J.
on 11/28/18 12:58 pm
DS on 11/29/16
Topic: RE: I opted for OA, Overeaters Anonymous instead of RNY!

OMD!! (Oh My Doggness! I'm a dog trainer...) I'm not the only one. It just feels wrong, I get leaning on someone, like my husband but to abdicate my responsibility to someone else? Not going to happen!

HW: 398.8 SW:356 GW: 175 CW:147

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