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kristinthomas
on 12/20/10 2:59 am
Topic: I'm new here :)
Hey guys!  I just wanted to say Hi and introduce myself.  My name is Kristin and I have right at 120lbs to lose.  I am here for some accountability!  I hope to get to know you all and hope that we can embark on our journey together!!!!!!!  Nice to 'meet' you :)
    
katmom_02
on 12/19/10 12:40 am - Orange Park, FL
RNY on 02/20/13
Topic: RE: when you have exhausted all surgeons close

I know this is an old thread, but there is a hospital in Houston Texas that specializes in SSMO people. It might be a bit of a trip, but I'm pretty sure that they have a table that may just make you feel small. Also, if I had your BMI, I would consider the DS in a two-stage surgery....getting the VSG, waiting a hundred lbs or two, then getting the second part of the surgery. It seems to be the safest and best way to go for very high BMI patients.

                    
OnceARunner
on 12/18/10 4:17 am - Woodbridge, CT
Topic: RE: What is wrong with me?
On December 18, 2010 at 11:37 AM Pacific Time, WASaBubbleButt wrote:
On November 6, 2010 at 9:39 PM Pacific Time, OnceARunner wrote:
It definitely sounds like you have reactive (aka postprandial) hypoglycemia.  It sucks but is MUCH more manageable than insane hunger... I know because I battled reactive hypo for almost 10 years.  Diet was never terribly effective in managing it, but some very effecitve things for me (#'s 1 & 2) and others (3):

#1 The prescription med, Acarbose (if your doc won't prescribe it, you can easily get it online; while is a prescription med, it is not a controlled substance)

#2 OTC stimluant products (they raise blood sugar); ErgoBurn and Thermorexin are the products I currently use and are 100% effective

#3 Something that I did not find effective (but MANY apparently do according to my trainer/nutritionist): taking a tablespoon of Honey
 
Nonono... not honey!  That makes the problem worse in the long run.  It will bring your blood sugar up and spike at the same time.  Then it drops and goes too low and you have low BS again.

Not sugar, not carbs... that makes it worse!  Protein. 


I see your point - that is exactly what my reasoning would be - so called "good carbs"/"bad carbs" is all carbs in the end and would have the same kind of effect - i.e. as you mentioned - stabilize (or even elevate)  blood sugar temporarily, only to have it come crashing back down again.

As I said, I did not find the honey to be effective, (but apparently some do), cuz I've heard more the suggestion from more than one trainer/nutritionist.

With that being said, I just started working with a new nutritionist who primarily focuses on the psychological but also hormonal/metabolic reason for hunger and weight gain (slow metabolism, binge-eating, poor blood sugar control, etc.).  It's hard to pin-point any one thing that is control my hunger and blood sugar, but one thing I've found EXTREMELY effective is what I termed the Triple-C  or Triple Threat Health Drink:

A 1:1:1 part combination of Cinnamon, Curry Powder, and Cayenne mixed with water.  Probably the 2nd worst thing I've had in my life; but holy sh*t, this thing stabilizes blood sugar and crushes hunger like nobody's business!!!!!!  Not to mention if you are tired or sleepy, it will wake you the F up, guaranteed! ;-)
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 3:37 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: What is wrong with me?
On November 6, 2010 at 9:39 PM Pacific Time, OnceARunner wrote:
It definitely sounds like you have reactive (aka postprandial) hypoglycemia.  It sucks but is MUCH more manageable than insane hunger... I know because I battled reactive hypo for almost 10 years.  Diet was never terribly effective in managing it, but some very effecitve things for me (#'s 1 & 2) and others (3):

#1 The prescription med, Acarbose (if your doc won't prescribe it, you can easily get it online; while is a prescription med, it is not a controlled substance)

#2 OTC stimluant products (they raise blood sugar); ErgoBurn and Thermorexin are the products I currently use and are 100% effective

#3 Something that I did not find effective (but MANY apparently do according to my trainer/nutritionist): taking a tablespoon of Honey
 
Nonono... not honey!  That makes the problem worse in the long run.  It will bring your blood sugar up and spike at the same time.  Then it drops and goes too low and you have low BS again.

Not sugar, not carbs... that makes it worse!  Protein. 


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 3:24 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: I think I'm finally doing it!
On November 9, 2010 at 4:31 PM Pacific Time, pengworm3 wrote:
Okay this may not seem like a big deal but for a whole seven days now I have managed to "diet." I hate to use that word because it just seems so negative to me but whatever lol!

Just like all the other times I've ever managed to lose weight before it just sort of happened seemingly out of nowhere (kind of). I've been trying to cut down on my eating for so long now and the more I'd try the more I'd stress out and binge. The longest I've made it is about three days in a row without giving up from feeling so overwhelmed at how much I have to lose which is over one hundred pounds.

For whatever reason the first five days flew by and I did so well. I was able to each much less than I normally would and to pass up the junk I would normally eat. Then yesterday came and I am HUNGRY again.

If the Wii Fit is right I had lost 6.4 pounds as of a couple of days ago and then gained 2 and a half as of yesterday which makes no sens! So I've been doing really well. It always just sort of drops off at first it seems.

Don't get me wrong I'm estatic about what I'm doing because I already feel better than I have in years. I can already feel the difference being out of that sort of icky food fog you get in when you are stuffing yourself full of crap all the time. Still I am having a hard time.

The thing is I know from years of losing and gaining that I can't crash diet, that it won't work in the long run, so I'm trying not to do that. However whenever I so much as try to cut back I get this weird sort of fear come over me. Like I  just sort of have to eat the bare minimum or I'm afraid I'll go nuts and not be able to stop eating again. I'm guessing some of you can understand what I'm talking about.

I've had what I would call disordered eating patterns all of my life. Either restricting or gorging is usually where I'm at with eating. Of course either way I feel like crap. Living either one of those ways is something that just seems to over take my life. I don't want to be constantly thinking about food. It's like I'm either thinking about what I'm going to stuff myself with or what I can't eat and I'm so tired of those extremes.

Have any of you felt this way? I'm really trying this time around to just allow myself to chill out a bit. Like tonight I was making chipped beef for my family which is total comfort food for me. I freaked out inside because I felt like I absolutely had no business eating it and planned on just eating a frozen meal or something like that. Then I thought about it for awhile and realized that normally I would probably eat two big plates of it till I felt like I was going to pop. I figured that I would have a much smaller amount and have it on whole wheat toast instead of the biscuits my family was having. I was truly terrified that I wouldn't be able to stop eating and that I would "fall off the wagon" so to speak and all my hard work would be lost.

However supper has come and gone and I'm still here. I did not go insane with the chipped beef. I had a decent size portion of it along with some streamed broccoli and I feel satisfied. I would be lying if I didn't feel a tinge of guilt thinking that I didn't do good enough as my skinny best friend would say. For her she's not doing good enough unless she barely eats anything or if she so much as walks near a carb! Sometimes I feel like if I'm not eating that way then I'm not doing it right.

BUT...I don't want to live the rest of my life eating something other than what I made for my family. I don't want to be afraid to sit down and eat a normal meal. So can you guys tell me if I'm just delusional here or if maybe I really made a little progress in the right direction tonight? Should I have just said no to the comfort food or was having a normal dinner okay? Deep down I feel like I did the right thing but the diet freak inside is telling me I ate too much!!!!

All I want is to lose enough weight to play with my children and buy plus size clothes in a store. These days I've gotten just past the biggest plus size they carry in the store and have to order on line which is a nightmare. I just want to lose enough to feel like I'm 31 and not 61 physically. I don't feel the need to try to fit into a tiny size or have a perfetctly toned stomach anymore. I just want to feel better....to feel normal. I'm so tired of extremes and I feel like tonight was really a big step for me. Then again I'm still sitting here in fear that I could undo this whole last week of excellent work in an instant, after all I haven't lasted this long in years!!!Anyone care to discuss? Am I the only one this messed up in the head with eating issues?
 
I think as a fat population we have to relearn what normal is.  What is a normal dinner?  You know what?  Chipped beef on biscuits is typical but it's not normal.  It is the kind of food that got us fat.

We can't live without fat in our diets but we can live without flour or sugar.  I'm not talking Atkins here, I'm talking flour and sugar.  In no way do we need those foods yet that is what we consume anyway. Well, I don't... that's one of the changes I made post op.  I can honestly tell you that I have not purchased a bag of flour of a bag of sugar since my surgery and that was 4 years ago. The more white carbs you eat the more you crave and the hungrier you are.

If you want a carb, eat beans.  Don't even buy bread, flour, or pasta.  Nobody needs it.  Children certainly don't.  We have to totally change our entire way of thinking about food.  I will never forget this one lady posting on the band boards a long time ago.  She was having a rough time because she couldn't pass up the cookies each time she walked by them but she couldn't get rid of them, it wouldn't be fair to the kids not to have cookies in the house.

Since when isn't it fair to not feed kids flour, sugar, bad fats, and preservatives?  It's okay not to load your house with poor food choices.  Out of sight out of mind... yeah, I know.  Easier said than done.  But it can happen with time.

Our population, we need to relearn what normal really is.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 3:11 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: Sensa anyone doing it?
On November 16, 2010 at 6:49 PM Pacific Time, sparkles217 wrote:
my mother and aunt bought large amouts of that full bar stuff, its sitting in the closet, nasty tasting stuff.  we have tried all sorts of stuff.  nothing works, its just a matter of doing it.  that is the hard part.   
 
Those full bars are disgusting.  Tastes moldy but that is the right flavor.

There are some kinds of gross you just swallow and throw the rest away, then there is gross where you spit out what is in your mouth and throw it all away.  Full Bars are spit out what's in your mouth gross.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 3:10 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: Sensa anyone doing it?
On November 16, 2010 at 6:39 PM Pacific Time, Stacey E. wrote:
I was just curious. Some of these commercials they show really makes you wonder. Seen another the other night for this band that you wear around your stomach and its suppose to help shrink your stomach..Can't remember the name of it..i find it kinda interesting..i like finding the things with REAL people..ya know?
 
I believe you are referring to the Lap Band?  Ack... it's a horrible procedure.  It's provides the slowest weight loss, the least weight loss, the highest regain, and the most mechanical problems.  Don't believe the marketing, it's not true and does not work well for most people.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 2:49 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: when you have exhausted all surgeons close
On November 16, 2010 at 2:36 AM Pacific Time, sparkles217 wrote:
i weigh over 650 and so far i am too big for all table that are near that i have checked out.  i went to a dietician today got the post op diet, i had the vertical banded gastroplasty in 2002 and want a revision into whatever they can do.  so here i am.  i got some sensa and have been using it when i remember and i seem to want to eat less later after i use it.  but i don't know if it is really that or not.  just wanted to say hi and here i am.
 
You are, by about 50#.  However, it is possible to convert a hospital bed into an OR bed.  It's not easy for the surgeon but hey, that's what he gets paid the big bucks for.

What is your preference for a revision?  DS?


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/18/10 2:47 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: when you have exhausted all surgeons close
On December 2, 2010 at 8:32 AM Pacific Time, clupner wrote:
 I can offer you encouragement to follow your diet.  I know it is hard to do, but if you decide to do it, you can do it.  Most of the time we just have to decide to stay on what we have to follow.  

You went through a major surgery many years ago.  Have you been able to see a therapist to help with what might be preventing you from keeping you to your plan?  I'm not trying to beat you up, just trying to help.  You have to love yourself enough to want to save your life.  I don't know what you have to deal with, but life can be hard and if we're here we still have to  move on.  For some reason you are here and you need to fight for yourself.

I know you can do this, so don't give up and do what you have to do for yourself.  Take care.
 
Back in the day I'd venture a guess that VBG failed 100% of people.  It just wasn't a good surgery type.  With our population if we can eat, we do eat.  That's all of us.  If any of us loses restriction we eat.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
clupner
on 12/17/10 12:14 pm - Pittsburgh, PA
Topic: RE: Proud of Myself
 I am following the new WW plan.  I really do love it.  It does nudge you to real foods and away from processed foods which I do think it better.  I've eaten more fruits and veggies in the past 3 weeks than I have in a long time.  And drunk more water.

You have done an amazing job.  I figure I may need to have some surgery too for skin, but I'll handle that later.  But congrats to you for an amazing job and thanks for responding!

Cindy
     
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