Blatant RAW Food Propaganda for pre~ ops (long)
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on 7/3/11 7:52 am, edited 7/4/11 3:12 am - CA
on 7/3/11 7:52 am, edited 7/4/11 3:12 am - CA
If you are researching WLS and have found OH and are reading the forums you will see many different opinions and facts. It is good that you found this site as there is comprehensive information from OH to be read on all the surgeries.
There are discussion forums as well with members posting their experiences too. It's important to read the forums because often clinics are very busy and cannot always give you the guidance you need for things like vitamins and even food plans and hair loss, protein powders, recipes, exercise, complications ect.. this site has allot of people who know what they are posting about.
It would seem ridiculous that a clinic could not take the time to print a excellent pre and post op booklet and provide proper follow thru, but some don't... I don't know if it's due to the patient population demographics, the clinic or a combination of both, but it happens allot. It's not a perfect words. Surgeons are not gods. OH has helped me allot.
There are currently four types of WLS being offered.
1. the lap band
2. RnY ( regular gastric bypass and the Fobi pouch type)
3. DS
4. The sleeve
Hopefully if you are seriously considering any surgery you know all your options, and can discuss with a DR. which would be best for your particular situation, BUT you have to be your own advocate because most DR's will not refer or even tell you about a surgery they do not perform themselves. I strongly advocate learning to think for yourself and not just following the herd for whatever reason....
Now that today I am officially six months out from my RNY( that I had no surgery related complications from) I'm looking back and thinking ahead.
I have lost 71 LBS exactly from my date of surgery. I am a mature adult, but I don't need to reveal my age as I don't believe in ageism either.
I'm now eating well and averaging 800 to 900 protein packed calories a day. So far I have had no dumping, foamies, no food intolerance's based on not advancing my meal plan too quickly, or pain that is surgery related. Now of course someone will think ( and sorry for you about that!) ' o just you wait ***** i can't wait to see you post that you have a ulcer or some such problem, you think your perfect or something snowflake'? O PU~LEEZE -I won't even go there. You can be sure if anything happens good or bad I feel i NEED to post I will. Next....
Anyway, back to the RAW food propaganda..... prior to considering WLS I had gone raw for three years, and was planning on making this my permanent lifestyle as it really worked for me. I am not lying or embellishing when I say that at SIX months after I went raw I was down 85 pounds and that was only back in 2007. It is a life style choice not just a diet, just as in successful weight loss surgery loss and maintenance you must commit to a life style change.
I ate sooo much, and raw food is not all salads and no protein nor is it all cold. A proper balanced raw food diet ( and believe me there is much debate and bickering about this in the community as well, but mostly by newbies and cultists) is protein packed, nutrient dense, filled with healthy satisfying GOOD fats and of course it is VEGAN; however I used to occasionally lick red ants off a log, but... Many people do progress from being vegetarians to vegans then to raw and back and forth and so on and so forth...
There are also many people who have lost huge amounts of weight, or helped others lose, becoming and staying raw. Shazzie, Angela Stokes, Alissa Cohen, as well as many many members of raw food forums and blogs.
If you feel you have it in you one more time before you take such a drastic step as surgery that has many far reaching and still unknown long term effects on your life I strongly urge you to consider a raw food 'diet' it worked for me three years ( and i won't go into WHY I stopped) I was healthy and satisfied with delicious food. I never counted calories carbs or a gram of fat. I did keep an eye on the protein and b12.
I ate desserts for breakfast, pie cake ice cream, salads, fruits, smoothies, main courses, everything. The raw food diet I made for myself included allot of raw nuts, seeds, vegetables, fruit, and vegan protein sources and super foods. It was a high good fat plan, NOT a Dr. Graham low fat 80/10/10 diet... uggg no way!
I was 100 percent raw 85 percent of the time I would say, with occasional cheat days of cooked nutritious vegan food. Like I said I lost 85 pounds in 6 months, and kept it off three years- more weight then i have lost in the same amount of time with RNY.
If you are really motivated to lose weight on your own before surgery the raw food "diet" was tied for SECOND place with Jenny Craig, and behind WW in a recent Yahoo front page best weight loss diets article. To just label it a diet is doing it a vast dis service however because it is far more complex then a diet. It's about healthy eating and changing the way you view food and making a lifestyle change. Maybe some may have read that, I think someone posted about it here.
Just as in how much effort people take to educate themselves about WLS you also have to figure out your own raw food plan and not just listen to the first idiot you run across. There are many good raw foods role models out there. i have named but a few and will provide good links to easily find them.
Ok, I'll share- here is the person upon who's principles I based my diet on. His name is David Wolfe. This is a very very good interview which clears up allot of misconceptions.
www.fredericpatenaude.com/interview-wolfe.html
Anyway, my first link is for Shazzie as she is a quirky and great non-surgery role model who lost over 65 lbs if I am not mistaken and kept it off. She is a bigwig in the Raw food world and very much respected. She has an inspiring story and journey and some twisted British wit.
www.shazzie.com/
The second is for Angela Stokes who lost over 100 lbs if I remember correctly. She is also very much respected in the raw food circles.
store.rawreform.com/rawreform2.php
and the last is for Alissa Cohen's wonderfulwww.rawfoodtalk.com/ forum "Raw food talk" Alissa is well respected in the community as well. As with any forum there ARE weirdos thou :)
Link for the raw food boot camp for the morbidly obese www.rawfoodbootcamp.com/Events.php
a very good resource
P.S.- if you want to view some of my raw food porn I have a photo album full of it you can look thru, dishes that I prepared, other peoples stuff and my own.You can get a visual of what a real raw food plan looks like and exactly what i ate to lose the 85 lbs and maintain for 3 years.
I also have big collection of books on raw foods i can recommend.
Hope this may help someone to avoid surgery :) and make a permanent lifestyle change.
edited to add the bootcamp link that i forgot the first time/ edited the second tome to add the missing link. and the ants
There are discussion forums as well with members posting their experiences too. It's important to read the forums because often clinics are very busy and cannot always give you the guidance you need for things like vitamins and even food plans and hair loss, protein powders, recipes, exercise, complications ect.. this site has allot of people who know what they are posting about.
It would seem ridiculous that a clinic could not take the time to print a excellent pre and post op booklet and provide proper follow thru, but some don't... I don't know if it's due to the patient population demographics, the clinic or a combination of both, but it happens allot. It's not a perfect words. Surgeons are not gods. OH has helped me allot.
There are currently four types of WLS being offered.
1. the lap band
2. RnY ( regular gastric bypass and the Fobi pouch type)
3. DS
4. The sleeve
Hopefully if you are seriously considering any surgery you know all your options, and can discuss with a DR. which would be best for your particular situation, BUT you have to be your own advocate because most DR's will not refer or even tell you about a surgery they do not perform themselves. I strongly advocate learning to think for yourself and not just following the herd for whatever reason....
Now that today I am officially six months out from my RNY( that I had no surgery related complications from) I'm looking back and thinking ahead.
I have lost 71 LBS exactly from my date of surgery. I am a mature adult, but I don't need to reveal my age as I don't believe in ageism either.
I'm now eating well and averaging 800 to 900 protein packed calories a day. So far I have had no dumping, foamies, no food intolerance's based on not advancing my meal plan too quickly, or pain that is surgery related. Now of course someone will think ( and sorry for you about that!) ' o just you wait ***** i can't wait to see you post that you have a ulcer or some such problem, you think your perfect or something snowflake'? O PU~LEEZE -I won't even go there. You can be sure if anything happens good or bad I feel i NEED to post I will. Next....
Anyway, back to the RAW food propaganda..... prior to considering WLS I had gone raw for three years, and was planning on making this my permanent lifestyle as it really worked for me. I am not lying or embellishing when I say that at SIX months after I went raw I was down 85 pounds and that was only back in 2007. It is a life style choice not just a diet, just as in successful weight loss surgery loss and maintenance you must commit to a life style change.
I ate sooo much, and raw food is not all salads and no protein nor is it all cold. A proper balanced raw food diet ( and believe me there is much debate and bickering about this in the community as well, but mostly by newbies and cultists) is protein packed, nutrient dense, filled with healthy satisfying GOOD fats and of course it is VEGAN; however I used to occasionally lick red ants off a log, but... Many people do progress from being vegetarians to vegans then to raw and back and forth and so on and so forth...
There are also many people who have lost huge amounts of weight, or helped others lose, becoming and staying raw. Shazzie, Angela Stokes, Alissa Cohen, as well as many many members of raw food forums and blogs.
If you feel you have it in you one more time before you take such a drastic step as surgery that has many far reaching and still unknown long term effects on your life I strongly urge you to consider a raw food 'diet' it worked for me three years ( and i won't go into WHY I stopped) I was healthy and satisfied with delicious food. I never counted calories carbs or a gram of fat. I did keep an eye on the protein and b12.
I ate desserts for breakfast, pie cake ice cream, salads, fruits, smoothies, main courses, everything. The raw food diet I made for myself included allot of raw nuts, seeds, vegetables, fruit, and vegan protein sources and super foods. It was a high good fat plan, NOT a Dr. Graham low fat 80/10/10 diet... uggg no way!
I was 100 percent raw 85 percent of the time I would say, with occasional cheat days of cooked nutritious vegan food. Like I said I lost 85 pounds in 6 months, and kept it off three years- more weight then i have lost in the same amount of time with RNY.
If you are really motivated to lose weight on your own before surgery the raw food "diet" was tied for SECOND place with Jenny Craig, and behind WW in a recent Yahoo front page best weight loss diets article. To just label it a diet is doing it a vast dis service however because it is far more complex then a diet. It's about healthy eating and changing the way you view food and making a lifestyle change. Maybe some may have read that, I think someone posted about it here.
Just as in how much effort people take to educate themselves about WLS you also have to figure out your own raw food plan and not just listen to the first idiot you run across. There are many good raw foods role models out there. i have named but a few and will provide good links to easily find them.
Ok, I'll share- here is the person upon who's principles I based my diet on. His name is David Wolfe. This is a very very good interview which clears up allot of misconceptions.
www.fredericpatenaude.com/interview-wolfe.html
Anyway, my first link is for Shazzie as she is a quirky and great non-surgery role model who lost over 65 lbs if I am not mistaken and kept it off. She is a bigwig in the Raw food world and very much respected. She has an inspiring story and journey and some twisted British wit.
www.shazzie.com/
The second is for Angela Stokes who lost over 100 lbs if I remember correctly. She is also very much respected in the raw food circles.
store.rawreform.com/rawreform2.php
and the last is for Alissa Cohen's wonderfulwww.rawfoodtalk.com/ forum "Raw food talk" Alissa is well respected in the community as well. As with any forum there ARE weirdos thou :)
Link for the raw food boot camp for the morbidly obese www.rawfoodbootcamp.com/Events.php
a very good resource
P.S.- if you want to view some of my raw food porn I have a photo album full of it you can look thru, dishes that I prepared, other peoples stuff and my own.You can get a visual of what a real raw food plan looks like and exactly what i ate to lose the 85 lbs and maintain for 3 years.
I also have big collection of books on raw foods i can recommend.
Hope this may help someone to avoid surgery :) and make a permanent lifestyle change.
edited to add the bootcamp link that i forgot the first time/ edited the second tome to add the missing link. and the ants
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