How to Know if Your Thyroid Needs to be Checked

mwy
on 6/6/09 11:28 pm
So many times, we wonder if our slow weight loss or no weight loss might be due to our thyroid being sluggish but to go to the doctor and have him check can be a rather expensive proposition...well, it is for me because I have crappy insurance.  And then some docs won't treat a thyroid in the normal range, problem being by the time your thyroid condition gets to the bottom of the normal range, you're in trouble. 

This is a copy of Colette's answer from the Atkin's site to a question posted about sluggish thyroid.  She's the nutritionist on the forum and she gives a way to test your thyroid at home so you'll know if you need to see a physician.  I found this very interesting and thought I'd share.

Mar. 27Colette Heimowitz Colette HeimowitzNutritionist 

It's not difficult to understand how an underactive thyroid—the medical condition known as hypothyroidism—can slow your metabolism and play havoc with weight loss. Among other things, your thyroid gland regulates your body temperature. In fact, sensitivity to cold is one of the first signs that you may have a sluggish thyroid. Like other hormones, thyroid production naturally diminishes slightly with age; in fact, easily 25 percent of adults suffer from low thyroid function. The swings of estrogen production in perimenopause or menopause can also throw thyroid function off.

To ascertain whether you have hypothyroidism, your doctor will do blood tests to evaluate your production of thyroid hormones T4 (also known as thyroxine) and T3 (your body converts T4 to T3), as well as another hormone called TSH (thyroid-stimulating hormone), which is produced by your pituitary gland. Practitioners do tests on free T3, T4 and TSH levels; however, these clinical tests do not catch all cases. To ascertain whether you might have a sluggish thyroid, first think about whether you are experiencing any of the aforementioned signs, such as sensitivity to cold, as well as weight gain or inability to lose weight, hair loss, fatigue and lethargy, depression, dry skin, chronic constipation, poor nails, poor memory and elevated cholesterol levels. If so, there is that simple way suggested by the nutritionist -the Barnes technique of basal metabolism-to ascertain if you are hypothyroid. It doesn't even require a trip to your doctor.

The way we did it at the Atkins Center was advising patients to simply take thier temperature orally four times a day (before each meal and before you go to bed) for four days. Average your temperature each day, and if it is consistently below 98° F, you are likely to have hypothyroidism. If it is significantly lower, you almost definitely do, and you should bring this information to the attention of your physician. (Be prepared: Not all doctors take basal metabolism as seriously as they should.)

Occasionally, the reason for an underactive thyroid is the deficiency of the amino acid tyrosine and the mineral iodine, both of which help make T3. Zinc and selenium help produce the enzyme that converts T4 to T3. But nutritional deficiency is rarely the cause of hypothyroidism. There are other causes, one of which can be an autoimmune response. The over the counter desicated thyroid may or may not help. I prefer Standard Process Thytrophin brand . I found better results with this than other varieties.

A major reason for hypothyroidism is simply the body's own attempts to preserve the status quo while on a weight-loss program. Dr. Atkins used a therapeutic trial to treat thyroid problems. He started patients with a very low dose of a prescription thyroid hormone replacement and built up gradually and very carefully. In most cases, when the right dose is reached, patients start to feel dramatically better, with a much better overall sense of well-being and increased energy and vitality.

Best of all, they start to lose weight.

The solution is to take thyroid hormone—both T3 and T4, preferably—in a natural form (rather than the synthetic type). Dr A prescribed the synthetic kind of thyroid hormone only in cases of an autoimmune disease, when your own immune system might destroy the natural kind.

Well, that would explain your slow rate of weight loss.



Mary 
Tassia
on 6/7/09 1:11 am
 Thanks for sharing this Mary!  That's some pretty important information.  I've often wondered about my thyroid.  I think I had it checked a while back.  

I only have some of the symptoms so I don't really think its a problem, BUT I often fantasize that it is and then the doc gives me a little thyroid pill and I lose 100 pounds in a month! 

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend!
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mwy
on 6/7/09 1:26 am
You and I share the same fantasy!   Rolly 3Wouldn't it be great to be able to say, it's not us, it's our thyroid.  Unfortunately, you have to take the good with the bad to make that statement.  And another thing that's unfortunate, even if you can blame your weight on your thyroid, you still have to diet and exercise once you get the pill. Not fair!

I know because I gained my weight mostly because of the PCOS and it took me six years to lose it. Shock 2  Soooo not fair!

I had mine checked about fifteen years ago and it was slightly lower than normal so the doc did nothing.  I suppose I need to mosey my butt back on down there cuz I ain't gettin' any younger.  Damn it.  Now that I'm menopausal, it only makes sense.  

I'm going to check with Colette to see if that hundred pounds lost in a month wish just might be possible!

Mary



chellelynn3
on 6/7/09 1:49 am - san bernardino, CA
 Mary~
I have had my Thyroid check a few times in my life starting when I was a child because my parents thought that might be why I was overweight, the Dr.'s have always said it was in the normal range but most recently when I was pregnant with my youngest (over 2 years ago) I had it checked at a natural womens clinic and they said it was borderline low, and to do the temp at home thing, and I never did, I had good intentions to but I just never did, now I want to do it! I was wondering how do you get the natural form of this hormone, I am very Anti RX drugs unless absolutley necesary , took me FOREVER to get off a certain anti depressant and now I am pill FREE! and thats how I want to stay!      

Michelle Hendrickson Holistic Health Coach http://www.gracioushealth.net

mwy
on 6/7/09 2:07 am
I hear you loud and clear about being anti RX.  The homeopathic nurse I used to level my hormones was the one who told me that most conventional doctors are not very good at treating hypothyroidism.  But she was more concerned with my PCOS than my thyroid because a lot of the symptoms are the same.

In Colette's post she said what worked best for her was Standard Process Thytrophin...Standard Process being the name brand.  You can do a search online.  It's all natural. 

I'm looking forward to hearing your "test" results,

Mary 
BigCityGirl
on 6/7/09 1:53 am - San Diego, CA
I've had thyroid disease for 15 years and also  thyroid and parathyroid surgery.    Here's a little value added to Mary's excellent post:

1.  The primary symptoms that I experienced were:
       a.  Being very tired in the morning - not wanting to get out of bed.
       b.  Bad nails - very thin and brittle
       c.  Being cold all the time - even in warm weather
       d.  And weight gain 

2.  The biggest problem I've had with treatment from some doctors is their unwillingness to be agressive.  There's a whole lot of "let's watch it for six months" philosophy out there.  Do you know how miserable one can get and how much weight can be gained while we "watch" for six months?  And then there are  the doctors who, after seeing extreme numbers on the blood work, prescribe miniscule amounts of replacement synthroid and have you wait another three months for another blood test until the correct dosage is obtained.  This whole thing has taken me 18 months to two years to play out - all while feeling miserable and gaining more weight. 

3.  My advice is to be very assertive with your doctor if you have any of the symptoms in the post.  Make sure that if your tests come back positive for thyroid disease, that the treatment is agressive.

4.  And finally, a well adjusted thyroid with proper  hormone  levels will go a long way toward stopping the weight gain but it will NOT be an instant recipe for success in weight loss.  You still have to do the dieting and exercise part - but at least you will be making progress.

There's a whole new post here on:  How to communicate with your doctor. . . .

Surgeon: Joseph Grzeskiewicz, M.D., F.A.C.S.
La Jolla Cosmetic Surgery Centre
mwy
on 6/7/09 2:11 am
Dang Babs, it sounds like you've been through with your thyroid what I've been through with my PCOS.  Wait and see and gain in the meantime.  Thank God we finally got some help!

Thanks for posting the info...you so smart.

Mary
BigCityGirl
on 6/7/09 2:44 am - San Diego, CA
Mary,  I'm smart only because I've made every imaginable mistake a patient can make in my road to recovering my health.  I had a parathyroid tumor for five years before it was diagnosed and removed.  It took me that long to decide it was time to change doctors - what an idiot I was!  It could have killed me. 

Now, when I go to a doctor with a problem I make sure I do my homework and go prepared with a list and an agenda.   Case in point:  I have a torn meniscus in my right knee.  This happened last fall.  I went to my regular doctor in March for my regular check up and she took an xray and said it was normal.  I went to Europe for a month of work and my knee was a giant pain center.  I came back, saw my regular doctor and said the "wait and see" time has elapsed and now I needed to see a specialist.  I saw an orthopeadic surgeon last week and I was relieved that he immediately ordered an MRI and said the knee would need to be scoped and cleaned out.  At least, we're not "aging" the problem while it worsens. . . . .

Surgeon: Joseph Grzeskiewicz, M.D., F.A.C.S.
La Jolla Cosmetic Surgery Centre
(deactivated member)
on 6/7/09 2:54 am - Rochester, NY
That's why I insist on specialists!  There's no way you can tell from an ordinary xray if you have a torn meniscus....needs an MRI.  Thank heavens you went to an ortho....good luck with your surgery.
BigCityGirl
on 6/7/09 4:05 am - San Diego, CA
Thanks.  Just waiting on the insurance company to authorize the work - hopefully, this will not be another "aging" process. . . . .
Surgeon: Joseph Grzeskiewicz, M.D., F.A.C.S.
La Jolla Cosmetic Surgery Centre
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