It's Calories That Count...

Janine P.
on 2/26/09 7:14 am - Long Island, NY
In the long run, it's the calories - not the fat, nor protein, nor carbs - that matter, according to a new study comparing diets.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/02/26/in_diet_its_calories_that_count/

 

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Heather S.
on 2/26/09 10:09 am
VSG on 06/04/15
I'm not sure I buy that generalization, I read the article, but I think it depends on the person. I've tried low calorie diet after diet, with no sucess. It's only been recently that I've been doing Atkins low carb that I've been able to lose anything. I dunno.

HW: 460 (12/18/14) SW: 419 (6/4/15) CW: 330 (10/19/15) Mini goal: 319 by 10/4/15

Janine P.
on 2/26/09 10:45 am - Long Island, NY
Yeah, I am on the fence too.  Atkin's chemical b/s makes sense, so I don't know if I'm capable of throwing all that to the wolves. 

 

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Neecee O.
on 2/26/09 11:48 am - CA
For most people, I agree! In general, the reason lower carb diets work is because we feel more satisfied with less food. Also, the short term effect of Atkins induction phase is that the cells release water.

The hocus pocus on ketosis is just that. Yes, for a short while it is true that ketosis will burn stored fat more readily, but over time your body will learn to make glucagon/glucose any way it has to, even from meat if need be. In other words, it will convert some amount of protein to sugar in your body. Remember, that was only a theory that Dr. Atkins had...never really panned out to many of his colleagues for th elong term. 

There are always people who may relate experiences that are to the contrary, but study after study shows that reducing calories is the bottom line to reduction diets. The hard part is of course is what level will any given person lose at?

When I hear that people did not lose at 900 cals, I know that given time, their bodies would release the weight. Some folks, for shur are more resistant and God knows how long it would take, some could feasibly go 6 weeks - maybe - but I would argue that some weight would surely be lost in that time for the very most people.  Most people give up WAY before a couple weeks go by!

The short term effect of a very low cal diet may be that phenomenon known as starvation mode, or the body refusing to release the energy due to fear that food is scarce.  In truth, it would have to give up that fight if no more food came into the body. Other wise, prisoners would not die in a hunger strike, or think of the Jews starving in camps!

NOT that I think that 900 is a healthy level to go to. Even at 1400 cals a day, it is hard to get proper levels of all nutrients needed.

"The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not."   ~Mark Twain

(deactivated member)
on 2/26/09 11:49 am
It would be interesting to read the actual scientific journal article to discern whether or not any of the study participants had been tested for metabolic issues, insulin resistance, any other differences or similarities that would potentially affect the outcome of the study, etc.  I think their hypothesis is generally true for **me** however I don't believe we live in a "one size fits all" world especially as it relates to obesity.
Neecee O.
on 2/26/09 12:03 pm - CA

your post made me think..if it works for ya, why ask why...what does it matter why.

It works! This is also why it is important to try other stuff, even if it does not make sense.  I tried Atkins, and it did change things for me. I discovered it's possible to eat pretty satisfying food and still lose.

My body did better - or at least as well on WW and the bariatric doc, for what that's worth. 4# on induction in 4 weeks, 6# lost in tops months of both WW and the pill pushing doctor.

"The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not."   ~Mark Twain

mwy
on 2/27/09 6:08 am, edited 2/27/09 6:21 am
Neen, I did a little search on the subject and this article had a little more info on the long term effects of the study.  Not a lot of people kept all of the weight off after the study.  But I was raised in Louisiana where this study was done and I'll say this...them Cajuns ain't givin' up no Jambalaya, cher.  Dem doctuhs is out they mind!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,500565,00.html

The results of the study showed people lost an average of 13 pounds in six months.  I don't exactly call that a glowing endorsement.  Around here, if we were only losing two pounds a month, we'd all be crying in our low fat lattes cuz we weren't losing any weight!  And then all of them gained back some of the weight in a year.  Holy Crap.

Mary
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