Abstinence - 157th Day

kitties4
on 9/15/08 2:32 am - Cleveland, OH

Breakfast
1 orange
1 cup oatmeal
1 cup light soy milk
1 cup coffee
2 cups water

Lunch
4 pork riblets with barbeque sauce
Boston baked beans
Pineapple chunks
Cooked carrot slices
2 cups water
1-3/4 whole wheat pita pockets
1.5 oz box of raisins

Dinner
Leftover Cream "chicken" Casserole
Leftover rotini pasta
1/2 can vegetable soup
1/4 cantaloupe
1-1/2 cups light soy milk

Denise Phares/kitties4

 

 

Janine P.
on 9/15/08 6:50 am - Long Island, NY
Zee, just a tip - Denise doesn't respond to questions/comments on her daily menu posts.  She just posts to feel accountable.  She doesn't really participate.

Just an FYI.

 

Janine   Me on Youtube 

 

kitties4
on 9/15/08 7:27 am - Cleveland, OH
I am not against using calories.  I track my meals every day on Fitday.com.  In the case of lunch, I was eating one of my client's frozen meals, and I wasn't exactly sure just much much of everything there was.  That's why I didn't list the amount.  I went on Weigh****chers several times, and I just don't do well on it.  Right now, I'm on a managing your diabetes food plan for 1600 calories, and I lost 28 pounds on it before my doctor screwed with my head, and insisted that I go down to 1400 calories, to lose weight faster.  I was perfectly happy and content with the 1600 calories and my rate of weight loss.  She helped to trigger my "lose weight fast" obsession, and I got all out of kilter after that.  I gained back some of the weight, partly because I was dealing with a very difficult client who got me emotionally hooked on him, with the purposes of breaking up my marriage of 15 years, just so I could take care of him, instead of his half brothers!  That really screwed up my abstinence totally.  Then when I was done with him (he got me fired when I wouldn't break up with my husband for him), I tried Weigh****chers again, this time using the Core Program.  It didn't work, and I ended up gaining on it, because I don't do well on plans that call for stopping eating when you're satisfied - I need to weigh and measure my food.  Then, still obsessed with losing weight fast, I took my brother's advice, which was to go on a totally vegan diet.  When I asked him how much food he ate, he said there was no weighing and measuring, that I could eat as much as I liked.  Well, as you can imagine, I went crazy, and spent a whole lot of money going to health food stores to get my food!  

Now, I'm going back to my original plan that I was happy & successful with - 1600 calories, and losing weight slowly.  I don't care at all what my doctor says, because she has a weight problem, too, and obviously has that "diet mentality" of losing weight as fast as possible.  I absolutely hate that, and I refuse to follow her advice.  I am happiest when I weigh & measure my food, and when I have a livable food plan that isn't restrictive like a weight loss diet.  Just eating healthy, with not alot of protein, plenty of carbs, fruit, and vegetables, and I did keep one facet of my brother's vegan diet - I continue to drink light soy milk, because I discovered that when I went off of dairy products, I stopped coughing up phlegm.  Apparently, I have an allergy to cow's milk, hence the soy.

Thank you for your concern - and yes, I do respond to posts.

Denise Phares/kitties4 
Zee Starrlite
on 9/15/08 7:11 am
Hey Janina

Denise has responded to me every single time I've replied to one of her posts.

OA was a large part of my journey too.  One day I walk in a meeting  - I had been away for awhile and a woman had raised her hand to speak of something like day one of abstinence (My experience of OA Abstinence was 3 clean means with no snacks inbetween or planned and reported snacks - if you were abstinent, you were losing weight.  And if you lost your abstinence on day 300, the next day or whenever you got sober with food, you'd start on day 1 again).  When I was there last, she had much, much more abstinence.  I knew her, she had been with OA for over 20 years!!! I looked at her - I'm 30 at the time and she is about 60.  she is super morbidly obese - her stomach is hanging over the seat of the chair.  I am sure that I don't want me to be her - I'm positive.  I don't want to waste my life away - miss what I am supposed to have.  I absolutely decide to "get banded".  The odds are stacked up against us.  People who lose weight with dieting and exercise alone keep some or most of 2-5% of the time.  I did EVERYTHING  I could do.

And you know J, it is still hard with WLS.  I've had a hard time but I'd do it again.  I'm down 70+ pounds (3+ years) and wearing a size 12's (just my shape because at my weight 192 it seems most people wear larger sizes).   I wouldn't change my WL Journey if I could.

You are doing great girl!!!

Much Love, Peace, & Harmony,
Leila


3/30/2005 Lap Band installed  12/20/2010  Lap Band REMOVED  
6/6/2011 Vertical SLEEVE Gastrectomy

Zee Starrlite
on 9/15/08 5:56 am, edited 9/15/08 6:06 am
Denise,

Are you against using calories or points?  Are you measuring your food?    When you say baked beans, pinapple chunks, leftover _____________ for example - are you being clean with YOURSELF on how much you are eating?

Weigh****chers helps alot with really being accountable.  Even calorie counting is AMAZING!  I must measure because I am the slickest and the sickest when it comes to food.  I love food but I don't like how too much of it makes me feel.  I don't like how I feel out of control when my food is not right etc. 

I am very familiar with OA and it is great too.  But I could have talked and listened for many decades and still been fat . . . . .  and more than likely sick.  Fat becomes too much a part of our bodies - our illness of compulsive overeating/binging NEVER goes away EVER.  I'd rather have some of the weight off with the aid of surgery and then figure the rest out.

God Bless you Kitties


3/30/2005 Lap Band installed  12/20/2010  Lap Band REMOVED  
6/6/2011 Vertical SLEEVE Gastrectomy

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