Silly Question
Oh my goodness Holly, this is too funny. I was just now peeling some boiled eggs and thinking why it was that you are having such a hard time finding a diet that works for you personally. So I'm thinking about what has worked for you in the past and how you were on Medifast and it came to me...the poor girl probably felt like she was starving to death. Then I got this image of you in my head dressed like Scarlett O'Hara and holding up your fist saying, "As God as my witness, I'll never be hungry again!"
You know, they say we have to open every door, see what's behind it and see how it applies to us. Consider this. Maybe your body is rejecting ANY diet because it refuses to go hungry. It's been traumatized and refuses to go back there. Something to think about, no? 
Mary
Mary Makes perfect sense to me! I've walked where you are walking now and I called it being in the groove. When I was working Atkins and working my body and working the water and the vitamins, it all just flowed. I bake the cakes in the family, and I had a hard time explaining to people that not eating them really didn't bother me. I had become more addicted to a number on a scale than a piece of cake I would forget about the next day.
I love to read what you are going through because it reminds me of how far I've come and how far you've come and what an inspiration you are and how much your story helps others.
I just wish that everyone could find their diet groove, but like you said, in the beginning it's all about effort and hard work. I tried everything before I found what worked for me...including Atkins. It may take us a while to find what works, but boy when we do, it feels like pure freedom. Not that it all goes great, all the time, but knowing where your groove is even makes it easier to recover from a slip.
Your're working the hell out of it , 
Mary
Mary 
OMG I am laughing so hard my dh asked me what the heck I was laughing at. Little do you know that Scarlett O'Hara is my idol!! hahahaha She has the ***** the attitude, and the beauty that any woman I think should have, plus she doesn't put up with any bull**** :) So yea, I had to laugh up a storm. That's my favorite movie of all time.
As your little analyzing me, maybe your right. After all I get scared and tell myself hell no, whenever I see a plan that requires me to keep away from some foods. It causes me to binge heavily. Omg, I'm still settling down from laughing so hard. Thanks for that, I needed that.
Well I don't know...hopefully one of these days it will come. Today I already failed at counting calories. My dh asked me how many calories was in my dinner. I stared at him and said..oooops! ha I forgot to measure anything.
Back to the drawing board tomorrow.
Well Miss Scarlett, I'm glad I could make you smile. I got to thinking about what you said about her personality and what she would do if she had a weight problem. Knowing her, she would go steal a wealthy personal trainer from his wife, marry him, and have him train her to an 18 inch waist. And then she'd make a fortune on selling workout videos!
So, exactly which foods are you scared of keeping away from. We may have to make up a new diet here just for you.
Mary
Darlin'.. the only silly question is the one you don't ask!
In my VERY humble opinion..... the hype is right... diets do NOT work. Permanent changes work! Changing any habit can make one feel deprived, but only temporarily. Once a new habit is formed, one no longer feels deprived of anything. The problem is the word "DIET" which means nothing more than what a person consumes. It just conjures such negative thoughts that now a days the best way to think of changing any way of eating is by saying we're NOT dieting..
As far as getting all of your points from pie...... hey... if you're not insulin resistent and you have a good working metabolism, I think you could probably maintain your weight by eating pie. Of course I think you'd suffer in the nutrition department...
I have a sister who could down 2 portions of manicotti at midnight.. every night... and never get over 104 lbs. I have another sister who actually makes me ill when I see how much she eats in a sitting... and she's always been between a size 5 and size 7. I've watched another sister put down an entire entemans cheese danish loaf in a matter of a couple of hours and suffer no adverse effects (personally I'd be spending the evening running back and forth to the bathroom) LOL I know.. TMI
Theoretically, you could eat 1000 calories worth of chocolate cake in a day and still stay on a 1000 calorie diet if you eat nothing else.... but ya woudln't stay healthy for very long, that's for sure.
But I am highly insulin resistant, so 1200 calories of pie a day would still keep me fat and starving to death. Bad diet, but still in the program...how silly is that?
Are you sure you weren't adopted? Surely you can't be related to these people who can eat at will and stay stick women? Sumpn' ain't right somewhere! Now whydga have to go and mention manicotti...is there an Atkins version of this I don't know about? Hehehe
Mary
Darlin'... you're dealing with a special issue so FIRST off.. you're not like everyone else. A piece of bread will make you hungry, nevermind a chocolate pie!
No.. not adopted. I take after my father's side.... all Type I diabetics. My brother and I ended up with type II. My sisters take after my mother's side..... all mini-people who can eat whatever they want without giving it a second thought.
I deal with this insulin resistence as well.. as a matter of fact, when my diabetes was uncontrolled, I was STARVING all of the time.... all the time. I could eat a meal and I would get full, but 1/2 hour later I felt like I hadn't eaten all day. That's not your stomache needing food.... that's your cells starving. Insulin has one primary function... it's a delivery system.. kinda like a railway car. When you eat something that alerts your pancreas that there is going to be glucose to be delivered, it releases the insulin... the insulin runs over and picks up the glucose.... then it heads out to deliver it. It gets to the cells and the door is broken so it can't get in and drop it's load. Well, it's gotta go somewhere! If it can't get it into the cells to be used as energy, it drops it off in your fat cells (the very short version). Answer to this: PREVENT AN INSULIN RESPONSE. This is just how I got the last 100 lbs off of me.
I don't know anything about WW so I don't know what they suggest for diabetics or folks who are insulin resistent (might as well be the same thing), but I've tried several different programs and ... hahahha... I gotta be the only fool who GAINED weight on Nutrisystem.... 11 lbs in 2 weeks.. and that was the program for diabetics.
Now.. back to the feeling of deprivation. You have a choice.. you can either choose to keep pumping the poison into your body (the carbs and sugars), or choose to avoid causing an insulin response at all costs. I don't consider this a "diet" (in the sense of depriving oneself of calories in order to lose weight) at all! What comes to my mind when I look at a piece of Tira Misu is "rat poison...it's like eating rat poison".
Ok.. so someone else can eat 1200 calories of chocolate pie and the worst that may happen is they'll get a case of the runs.. but if you or I do it.. it's ALL going to our fat cells. You're dealing with a special issue so all bets are off.... you gotta do what works for YOU, not for the general masses. Fist comes acceptance, then a new mindset.... then as a side effect of controlling your blood sugar, the weight melts off.
We're all different! It's a matter of finding the do that works for you and just doing it!
Sorry about the length of this... I get a tad passionate when it comes to this issue .. when I hit 325 lbs while doing all the happy things the diabetes doctor was telling me (fruits, veggies).. all the healthy stuff, I knew something couldn't be right.
God Bless!
Lori
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