I found a product that works for me/ childhood obesity

schristmas
on 5/3/08 3:11 pm - Kernersville, NC
I found a product that works for me and is helping me lose the last 10 pounds..anybody interested I will let you know about it.  How is everyone doing?  I did have surgery 3 years ago but sometimes you have to work at the last little bit.  My daughter is using these natural products because she is obese and I dont want to have her have surgery if I can help it...plus make her HS years pleasant.  Anybody else have obese children.  Id like to start a conversation about that...share theories and ideas.  She is 14 and weighs about 165.  I was miserable in high school and was taunted and teased. Susan
Neecee O.
on 5/3/08 11:52 pm - CA
I would like to hear what you use - i see from your profile you sell vitamins. As for your daughter, my theory is that some kids - me included - are big when they hit the top of the growth scale. If she can concentrate on eating whole foods most of the time and making sure she moves every day, walking, biking, swimming, aerobic class, sports and the more enjoyable the better, I truly believe she will be fine in the long run. In retrospect, it was when i started "dieting" which back in the 70's meant starvation plans that my weight issues were exacerbated.  On top of it all, I was a bulimic, not out of the closet yet. So, I trained my body to hoard calories by binging/starving. I think more girls especially have eating disorders than meets the eye. With so much low nutrient, high caloric foods in her face all day long as a teen - it is nay to impossible to stay on the path of eating right unless she gets an exceptional attitude about it.  She does not have to become Super Dork and bust out hummus/sprout sandwiches when her friends are mowing down pizza, but she can quietly get a salad with little dressing and eat 1-2 pieces, water or diet coke. She can get one hamburger, no fries. She can put fresh whole fruit in her backpack and maybe a couple low carb protein bars for when the choices really are awful.  try hard to show her not to get too hungry - that is when bad choice happen. Women have a really hard time with that, no matter our age.  To this day, i fight my tendencies to "save up" calories when I am going to a party.  My best defense is to never get way hungry.  You, too? Most of all, this is something SHE has to buy into. Hey, there's worse things than being a little chubby and getting teased. She will figure out her comfort level.  All you can do is quietly mention tools, then leave it to her. Buy good foods for the house so that her home can be a safe haven from treacherous foods.  Lastly, I am a firm beleiver in staying out of the good food/bad food discussions with her - it is confusing, it will not work - she has peer pressure to contend with - an let's face it, even as adults, we give it lip service to say we NEVER eat *that* kind of food. Of course we do - it simply needs to be consumed less often.    All foods can fit at her age especially, it is all about moderation.
schristmas
on 5/4/08 5:24 am - Kernersville, NC
Hi!  Thanks for your input.  I'm an RN and nurse practitionermidwife which may make me more concerned about my daughter....and maybe not.. I was obese and had diabetes when I want pregnant..so I know I predesposed my daughter to obesity...medical research has show that that can happen.  I try to instill good eating habits but part of the problem is she lives with her "skinny" dad who allows her to eat junk and he doest cook,eats out a lot etc.  She is a "base" on a cheer squad and loves that.  She does well and they like the bases to be a little bigger than the "flyers". She has lost 15 pounds on her own over the last year and is trying to watch what she eats.  I have never said a lot about he weight to her unless she asks or brings it up.   I started her on calcium and vitamins about 3 years ago because I know teens dont eat well (applys to many adults to).  I try to teach her the benefits of fruits an vegetables and have just started her on some supplements to help that.  The foods  we eat today just dont have the nutritional value they did 50-100 years ago.   I was never bulemic...probably because I dont have much of a gag reflex, however I can relate to the binge/starve cycles. My mother is 71 and always seems to mention the family member's problem with obesity,when we have any conversations.  I have asked her to stop that with my daughter. The products I use and sell are from new vision.  I started them because I liked them.  Then I became a member so I could get them wholesale.  I just started selling them. If you are interested you can cotact me by [email protected]. my mom even but me on amphetamines when I was in the 6th grade!! I hated the headaches and dry mouth....and the excessive talking! I just have my daughter on supplements and trying to guide her.  It's hard to do when I am sabotaged by her dad. I would like to get more going with the childhood obesity them and ways to help them.    Take care and thanks for responding to my post! Susan
Neecee O.
on 5/4/08 6:00 am - CA

LOl!  anphetamines!  I know, this is one thing when I hear about the "obesity" crisis" that makes me laugh.  A LOT of docs prescribed speed to kids and moms in the 60's and 70's. So, who knows when exactly this whole thing started.  Before that, doctors nor public health kept records of kids and adult weights, so how did we get the so-called baseline numbers? I personally am not so sure that there is an obesity epidemic. I think kids are getting bigger - based on better nutrition & supplements during pregnancy. My girls are both 68 inches tall - their father and I are 64 and 66 inches respectively. My sibs and I are all taller than my dad and mom....and so on.  But, having said that, it is important to help girls especially knwo that we are not all barbie dolls, never owuld be, and to mess with restricting intake at preteen ages is dangerous and only adds to the weight gain problems. If i had only accepted that my body is a natural born size 14, i would have never gotten obese.  AND furthermore, to call this an obesity crisis is damning.  It suggests that all fat people eat unhealthily.  Ummmm, you alluded to it - many thin people eat like holy hell!  How about we back up this train and simply get back to eating good whole food where possible?

Thanks and I will e-mail you later.

schristmas
on 5/4/08 8:12 am - Kernersville, NC

yes I agree....I do take supplements but I eat as close to nature as possible .....If man made it, I try not to eat it"  Cant do it all the time but try as much as possible. Susan

catje1977
on 5/4/08 4:28 pm - Raamsdonksveer, Netherlands

Susan don't push your daughter too much in my opinion... That is how I ended up morbidly obese, because I was dieting from age 2 onwards@@

165 for her age is a bit heavy, but not OBESE! (I was obese, at that age, at 260 pounds)

If she continues to grow, she will be goodstaying at that weight for now. The danger is of course tht she'll get obsessed about it, does all kinds of bad-for-you diets that make here yoyoyo and end up in the place you DON'T want her to be. Just lead by example about good eating and moving a lot. Maybe talk with the dad.

Oh by the way, there is a special thread on OH about childhood obesity, maybe those people can give you very good tips! I just wanted to say, be careful not to obsess over it. I am sensitive to this because it partly made me end up here :-(

GOOD LUCK
Carina

        
HollyRachel
on 5/4/08 4:58 pm
Hi, I also have a few over weight kids.  My daughter will be seventeen next month.  Although she isn't too bad YET, I'm afraid for her.  It's hard not to push too much, but make your point when needed.  Plus guiding them is harder than expected, especially as teenagers.  I've never tried to say much, but now my eleven year old is following in my footsteps and I think he's heading for destruction.  I'm trying soooo hard to make the right choices for him.  Whether it be trying to convince him a piece of vegetable isn't the enemy, or trying to explain to him that hiding, and sneaking food isn't the answer.  Like Catj just said, I try very hard not to mention it, just try to set examples, BUT as a teenager and a VERY active and social boy it's quite harder than that.  Plus my son is on the verge of having some food problems I think.  I'm watching it very closely.  It's almost like you have to catch them at a very young age to make it easier on you and them!  You never know what they are eating as they get older!  Also some teenagers just don't care!  They hate everything I make now, and I'm a good cook! I was also over weight with no one telling me to lose as a teenager.  Sort of the opposite of Catj, so I guess it can go both ways.  I think sometimes with our genetics behind us, along with all the crap out there it's almost as hard for them to lose as it is for us at the age of 30,40, or 50!  I just pray I can get through to mine before it's too late and they start gaining a lot of weight. Sort of interesting that some people think setting examples is the best way.  Which believe me, I'm one of them!  BUT I've been noticing my two teenagers not eating at home much anymore.  And you guessed it, they are gaining a little more weight.  I just heard them last week sat that they think I eat weird now and hate the food at home.  They would prefer going to their friends house and eat their "normal" food.  I guess we just can't win!  I think I've almost lost the battle with my two teenagers, I'm just praying it's not too late for my other two! :)  Now my youngest, shes as thin as a bean pole.  Some people say she's too small.  She will eat the healthiest foods, and requests it!  What eight year old asks for a tomato for a snack?  Or will only eat a quarter to a half of her small size ice cream cone because well...she's full!  I just LOVE her way of thinking.  Fresh, good, healthy food...she LOVES it! YAYYY!!!  hehe  She runs to me when she sees me get out edamames for lunch.ha  She's my little weirdo, and I'm loving it. :)


schristmas
on 5/8/08 4:04 pm - Kernersville, NC
Good luck with your kids...we can only guide them in this world..not control them.  She is eating less on her own..and im glad for her  185 at 5'2'' at 14  years old IS obese.  Not morbidly obese but not just a little overweight.  We have heart disease and breast cancer in our famiy and those can both be related to obesity.I ama supplementing her diet with natural nutritional products that I lover and so does she...tryng to get her off colas and sugar and additves because she has headaches. really bad.  Were doing well. Hope you are too. Susan 
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