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Neecee O.
on 3/12/08 11:56 am - CA

3 e-mails a week...yup, a bit much, i think, since you see him quite a bit. I mean, he obviously gave the addy to you, so it would be implied that one here and there would be okay. Guys hate drama...EYE hate drama...again, if it were me, i'da split long ago. Kindly, politely, but still split. No need to be nasty about it, but he has sent messages here that seem clear in your posts. Ian's boss has this right...YOU are a paying customer who is literally writing out paychecks to these guys - Ian needs a business class. I wonder if Ian is running you off? no loss.

JerseyGirl1969
on 3/12/08 6:18 pm - Milford, NJ

THat's certainly what it feels like, and to me so not necessary. I hate drama, but by reacting the way he has and his behavior, he's created it. Again, 3 emails is a lot? Well, if he won't answer my question during session and is unavailable after, and I email it? Why is that bad? If there's progress to share why not? If there's a schedule issue, that's important for me to share. I don't get it. I would so not be bothered by 3 emails in one week (not every week).

Jupiter6
on 3/13/08 2:35 am - Near Media, Pa- South of Philly, NJ

RNY on 07/16/07

You would not be bothered because you do not hold the same standard for personal/ professional boundaries. You already said you emailed over schedules, but also AND "in gratitude", et al--- some of your communication appears unnecessary and teetering on misunderstanding a professional relationship. Thank the guy in person and leave. It's that simple.

"Oh sweet and sour Jesus, that is GOOD!" - Stephen Colbert Lap RNY 7/07-- Lap Gallbladder 5/08--
     Emergency Bowel Repair 6/08 -Dr. Meilahn, Temple U.   Upper and Lower Bleph/Lower Face Lift
     12/08
     Fraxel Repair 2/09-- Lower Bleph Re-Do 5/09  -Dr. Pontell, Media PA Mastopexy/Massive
     Brachioplasty/ Extended Abdominoplasty (plus Mons Lift and Upper Leg lift) / Hernia Repair
     6/24/09 ---Butt Lift and Lateral Thighplasty Scheduled 7/6/10 - Dr. Ivor Kaplan VA Beach
     Total Cost: $33,500   Start wt: 368   RNY wt: 300 Goal wt: 150   Current wt: 148.2 BMI: 24.7

JerseyGirl1969
on 3/13/08 2:37 am - Milford, NJ

That's an over the top interpretation, something you can't make without seeing the emails. Regardless. You and I are and will remain different.

Jupiter6
on 3/13/08 2:43 am - Near Media, Pa- South of Philly, NJ

RNY on 07/16/07

That's a tremendous relief. When I go to the gym I can get some work done without having to crap myself for days over what people think about me, who is including me in their "reindeer games", who's talking about me, who's misinterpreting my emails as advances---- so I really wouldn't have it any other way. When you decide you want that sort of experience, you'll have it. But if you keep doing what you are doing, you will keep getting what you are getting.

"Oh sweet and sour Jesus, that is GOOD!" - Stephen Colbert Lap RNY 7/07-- Lap Gallbladder 5/08--
     Emergency Bowel Repair 6/08 -Dr. Meilahn, Temple U.   Upper and Lower Bleph/Lower Face Lift
     12/08
     Fraxel Repair 2/09-- Lower Bleph Re-Do 5/09  -Dr. Pontell, Media PA Mastopexy/Massive
     Brachioplasty/ Extended Abdominoplasty (plus Mons Lift and Upper Leg lift) / Hernia Repair
     6/24/09 ---Butt Lift and Lateral Thighplasty Scheduled 7/6/10 - Dr. Ivor Kaplan VA Beach
     Total Cost: $33,500   Start wt: 368   RNY wt: 300 Goal wt: 150   Current wt: 148.2 BMI: 24.7

Jenn S.
on 3/13/08 3:01 am

DS on 03/04/09

Nobody in this whole back and forth probably gives a crap what I have to say but I will say it anyway because for some reason I keep reading and reading and I am seriously shocked by all of this. I see where both of you are coming from -- I really do. Sure, there have been posts that Jerz has been made in the very short time I have been here where I have thought, "whoah...." -- maybe she was a little gruff or should have worded it differently -- but I must say that over the months I have come to realize that her intentions have always been GOOD. I think that she has found something that works for HER and she is excited to share it with others. you can see it in her posts -- almost feel her excitement over how well she is doing and she wants that excitement for others. I think that's great! Shari -- you too are doing great in all of this. You are doing things differently than Jerz is that too is great -- for you. As you said -- we can approach this battle that we are all facing differently. I am a little shocked to see how you seem to just be laying into her today. Maybe I have missed something -- maybe I haven't been around enough to know of a past that is there. But really -- even if there is a past, I don't see what could really make any of this o.k. in my mind. She is hurting right now. I think it's o.k. to not like how she approaches things. But I don't think it's o.k. to attack her personally. JMO Please do not take this in any way other than how I am trying to put it out here. I really don't even know why I am jumping in here but this whole thread has really gotten to me today.

Christa :]
on 3/13/08 3:07 am - MI

VSG on 03/13/12

Jenny. You said everything I wanted to. lol. I guess I just didn't feel like typing all of it out.

JerseyGirl1969
on 3/13/08 3:12 am - Milford, NJ

One thing I k now, hurting people hurt people and she must hurt to even dare attempt lay into me today. I can simply wish her well.

Jupiter6
on 3/13/08 3:21 am, edited 3/13/08 3:25 am - Near Media, Pa- South of Philly, NJ

RNY on 07/16/07

I teach middle school, and deal with girls who propagate drama all day: comes with the age group... I get very frustrated when I see grown women make the same difficult things happen in their own lives. Why would anyone choose dramatics and noise when they could simply work out and enjoy the benefits of it? I guess I just don't understand the need for that struggle. It comes off kind of blunt, but the truth is you have to be willing let that stuff go. Continuing to struggle that way and twist yourself internally just doesn't make sense, or help anyone. I know she was hurting-- I didn't start the thread off frustrated or angry, just sincerely trying to help. So that arrogant line, ""ANd I have always had empathy for all here, otherwise I wouldn't have offered the information critical to their success..." really set me off: it seems to be she's taking credit for others' successes, which is really unkind, in light of the work each of us has done in our own lives. I'm not usually easily rattled, but this time I was. Sorry to cause you distress.

"Oh sweet and sour Jesus, that is GOOD!" - Stephen Colbert Lap RNY 7/07-- Lap Gallbladder 5/08--
     Emergency Bowel Repair 6/08 -Dr. Meilahn, Temple U.   Upper and Lower Bleph/Lower Face Lift
     12/08
     Fraxel Repair 2/09-- Lower Bleph Re-Do 5/09  -Dr. Pontell, Media PA Mastopexy/Massive
     Brachioplasty/ Extended Abdominoplasty (plus Mons Lift and Upper Leg lift) / Hernia Repair
     6/24/09 ---Butt Lift and Lateral Thighplasty Scheduled 7/6/10 - Dr. Ivor Kaplan VA Beach
     Total Cost: $33,500   Start wt: 368   RNY wt: 300 Goal wt: 150   Current wt: 148.2 BMI: 24.7

JerseyGirl1969
on 3/13/08 3:28 am - Milford, NJ

I'm not propogating drama. I'm a grown woman and prefer peace. Sometimes drama enters your life and whoa, if you actually do CARE about people, you get embroiled in it and it takes some maneuvering to exit. I would rather accept that struggle as it means I live what I breathe--being a loving, compassionate person. In fact, it's what those who love me tell me--even people at the gym, staff and friends. They love and respect me for being this kind of person. The flip side is that it allows struggle to wiggle in, and that's when my strength has to come out and I have to maneuver as needed. You have such an interpretation of how things are that you don't hear the accurate description. I go there to work out and get my benefit--this is what made me an issue for the group--I'm too intense in the workout because I'm focused on doing what my trainer taught me--focus to do more to get more benefit. Working hard for that benefit doesn't mean you have to keep everyone and everything at arms' length. I've made several great friendships there. Once upon a time Ian, definitely other trainers and staff. I wouldn't want to have missed out on it.

I have to chalk this up to Ian's issues and let it go. I just got hurt in the mix.

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