Another way to look at Good Food Bad Food discussion

Neecee O.
on 2/2/08 6:49 am - CA
Kriz said in his weekend defense post:  "I plan to cook." That statement made me flash on a pretty cool point in Dr. Phils recent Ultimate Weight Loss book (scored it for free bascially at a garage sale) Rather than Good/Bad, he labels foods in two catagories that I think fits way better:  High Response Cost Foods:  Those foods that require a great deal of effort and work to prepare and eat; cannot be eaten quickly. Good example:  raw broccoli.  we have to grind and chew it to get it down. Home-made soup is another:  it takes a while to plan, shop, chop, simmer, etc. Hot whole grain cereal, another one. Low Response Cost Foods:  Foods easily ingested, overly convenient, requiring little or no preparation.  An excellent example is a sour cream bean burrito from any mexican restaurant. You barely need to chew this - it practially slithers down your throat! A high amount of calories can be ingested in no time.  I just really loved this discussion and another way to be conscious of not only what but how my body responds to food.
Gael T.
on 2/2/08 2:18 pm - CA
Yep, I think its the not planning when we can get off track, grab somethin quick...You know, those things that slither down yo throat! lol...Hey, just got on here cause our local weather said ya'll might be lookin like dis... Snowstorm Snowplow Shoveling SnowTake care, keep warm!  Brrrrrr... 


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Chris I.
on 2/2/08 9:51 pm
Can fried chicken be considered a high response cost food? I mean, it has a bone you have to eat around and most people have to pick the skin off.  Some even remove the skin before cooking it.  I suppose you could buy boneless/skinless..but yanno.  You still have to cook it! Ooo and then after you eat the stuff you have to wash your hands very thoroughly because otherwise you're leaving grease prints on everything you touch!  Heheh! I'm kidding of course.  I like how Dr. Phil puts that but in all honesty there are some foods that are quick and easy to make that don't cost you much in the way of calories. But I get what he's saying. Still not sure I like that Texan yet though! I've done pretty good so far this weekend with cooking.  We went to Sonic with some friends yesterday. I looked over the menu and just didn't want a salad or a wrap and everything else didn't fit into my meal plan so I opted for my bottle of water while the wife had a wrap and my friends had burgers. My actions brought ridicule from my so-called friends..  What the hell is wrong with a fat guy trying to diet? Why do people feel the need to pick on you?  Hell my friends cholesterol is in worse shape than mine and he's eating a super-sonic cheese burger with extra cheese and bacon..  What a moron..but did I say anything to him about that..nope.  Anyways.  that's not the point. I did good because I went home to eat. I had leftover turkey meatloaf, green beans and zucchini in tomato sauce.   This was around 4 or 5pm so I was hungry again around 8pm. I had a turkey ham sandwich on wheat and that was it.

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Neecee O.
on 2/3/08 1:28 am, edited 2/3/08 1:36 am - CA
well, right, certainly some very "good for you" foods also slither down the throat. It is an aspect that intrigued me, like the good food/bad food thing that comes up from time to time. Sure, there are foods that are not, nutritively speaking, going to help us stay on track with our goals to reduce calories or manage caloric/nutrititve intake they way we envision. But to pretend like these foods are not going to be part of our life to some degree, not realistic. Your Sonic discussion was interesting...we tend to hang out with people who share the same goals as we do.  When those goals may splinter off, there will be an adjustment period. I have been there with certain friends, for me, yes, partly going out to eat, but also have certain friends who love to go out to drink. It's not that I never do these things, of course...going out to eat and drink several x a month are not going to meet my goals for incoporating healthier things into my lifestyle. My friends are at the age of hypertension, diabetes diagnoses - one has had a heart attack! It's Hammer time, y'all. I'm trying hard to change our social scene to going for hikes, camping, biking, walking marathons.  When we have dinners at my house, there is ALWAYS a healthy alternative, low cal soups, veggies.  When I bring things to potlucks, I try hard to bring at least one veggies thing or lower cal item. When we go out to the movies, I do not wish to bring candy or other snacks - some friends have to spend an additional $20 on this type of thing. At times, I may have a 1 ounce peanuts with me or something and buy a diet drink. And as for Dr. Phil, I cannot say I love him, but part of the draw for me is that he is such a self righteous pr*ck that like a train wreck, i seem to be drawn to watching him just to yell at the tv over how crappy he treats some people (who do usually deserve it). He could choose better words.  I love socio-subject things of all types, just one of my favorite thing to listen to people's stories.  My DH says once in a while to me after a question, "I don't know, why don't you ask Dr. Phil?????? He knows everything" We both think he is pretty selfish and haughty.  I would not have spent a legitimate $ on his books. 
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