kRIZ...Atkins discussion....
That's my thinking with my current plan and it works for the most part but the problem is I lose control on that 'one bad thing'. I eat too much of it sometimes. That's why I suggest avoiding the theory of everything in modification. For now. To me that's a maintenance motto. Either way, if I choose to do the Atkins then I can't have anything on the 'bad list' for quite some time. Otherwise it throws me out of ketosis and it'll take 3 days to get back in. Instead, I can find similar foods that are on the 'good list' to satisfy the craving. I'm hoping that my cravings will dissipate and change though. Yup. Two weeks getting the body into gear (what is two weeks in view of the big picture). Look at the lowcarbfriends MB and you'll see there are a ton of recipes. And yes, the cravings will be long gone and or completely manageable.
I don't believe it's an addiction 100%. I don't think most people have problems with food. I think the food they choose has a problem with them. I mean, you don't binge on everything, right? Just certain foods. Why? IMO, it's because of those foods, whether they're sweets or salty or gooey. Not like you binge on healthy options much, right? I mean, an alcoholic is an alcoholic about alcohol and may have a drink of choice, but alcohol is the problem, not the specific drink.
And while I understand binging...BTDT...all I know is for me I let it go when I put those foods in perspective.
I know some here agree with you about addiction. I don't. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree.
As for "no, I don't think I'm saying that at all." Chris, your behavior is. Actions speak louder than words. Every time you choose to binge or be inactive, knowing full well the price, you're choosing the results--obesity...no matter what you say, your actions speak your true feelings. I don't think yet you've really tapped into your motivation. Not 100%. You may have found your reason, but you don't believe it yet.
Believing it however will make you put the action forward. You can force yourself to, though, and maybe the head will come along as the results come. Just give what I'm saying some thought. As for step toward change--I'll give you that, but baby steps make things take a long time. Do you have that time? I've said this to others at the gym--big effort, big results...small effort, small results. As long as the efforts are small, the belief is small and the results will be small. But it doesn't have to be that way. See, IMO, you could read the book (and really once it arrives in a few days, you just have to read induction to get started for your first two weeks), or you can go to the sites I shared, and just start. I'm already doing it. You're waiting. You have to ask yourself why.
Do you not believe you can do it? Do you not really want it? What IS going on in that head of yours.
Not sure I understood negotiating for a better deal. What's the better deal? A different diet? OK, there are many. Or is it negotiating to find a way to eat what you want and not have the bad results?
See, while Neecee is right that food isn't bad, and nothing need be off limits, that doesn't necessarily apply during weight loss. If it does, it just means you're taking the slow boat to China. Heck, get on the dang airplane, LOL. Look, there's a world of great food out there and I do believe in food as enjoyment and even entertainment. Guess what, though. See, all the things you like now, all the habits--have made you fat. Those choices are your problem. Now, you can just scale back on them and see some weight move, maybe. Or you can start accepting that healthy choices are what delivers a healthy body. It's really that simple. You can try to negotiate and for instance, there are programs like Body For Life that suggest a one day eat whatever you want or even Bob Greene who advocates one dessert a week. But I have never seen that work, for me or others while overweight. Look at it this way. If you have to find a way to get rid of 7,000 calories a week to lose 2lbs a week and you try to negotiate let's say a honkin' plate of cheesy, meaty, beany nachos (yummm) and that whole plate has 2000 calories on it and you manage to eat the whole dang thing because ummmm how good it tastes, you just took away almost half your expected weight loss. now, if you can have one or two bites (which will still cost you hundreds of calories), maybe your weight will still move, or maybe the fact that it's all the types of foods contrary to weight loss will make you stall or gain water weight. Was it worth it? NIMO. Reason I suggested Atkins to you is a) there's a way to do it healthy, b) you can eat a ton of food and not count calories, c) you can indulge certain foods that would be off limits on other diets, d) protein and fat produce satiety, and e) there are a lot of creative options out there with recipes (I found one for a faux egg "bread" that a woman uses to sandwich BLTs or have as French Toast or use for an egg mcfakinmuffin....). I think if you just did as Atkins recommends AND didn't replace your scale and just ate to enjoyment on it, you'd break your cycle of "addiction", stalled weight loss, and whining ; ). Success slaps the latter right out of you. You asked somewhere what version I'm following. Well, my Atkins New Diet Revolution (bought somewhere in the 1990s) is what I follow, but I'm just using the online references for induction until I happen to go to my mom's this weekend, where the book is in a box. Like I said, I'm not waiting. Wish you'd join me. Just give it a shot. One month--two weeks induction and two weeks into Phase II. I bet, sincerely, that if you do it right you'd lose 10-20lbs. If in 30 days you're not completely satisfied, you can tell me where to go ; ). It may not be the right program for you or it may be. Meantime, you will need to get the crap carbs outa the house (donate to a food pantry perhaps?) if you can't control yourself. I think that's the first place to start. (I admit, I'm not 100% Atkins yet as I have some fresh fruit I want to finish before true induction.) So I'm still doing what I've been doing about 75% and the revised plan about 25%. (I remind you, my reason is to see if it hasten results for me as I'm in a period of a Gym Challenge.)
Anyway, enough rambling.
