Husband is not being very supportive!

as far as the bones go... I'm 5'10", and have bigger wrists than my husband.  My wrists are the same size now as they were when I was thinner. I had to have my kids by c-section, because the doctor said I had a "small pelvic outlet".  I said "well, I guess that's the only small part of me!!"  they also were both over 9 pounds - so I would think maybe I had a normal bone structure, and they just had enormous heads!! Neecee - you slay me! ("bloody stumps"), and I agree about the DH needing to sometimes just keep their mouth shut!   So anywayzzz, don't let your DH's comments discourage you.  If you are on a mission, forge ahead!  If you loose weight, but don't fit into the pants, so what!  : )

Sizes range by the manufacturer and YES Leather does stretch! Not by a whole lot but it does stretch. Having tons (yes alot) being that the DH and me ride Harleys I own a whole herd or 2 of cattle. LOL Many times riding in the rain has conformed the leather to body shape. That being said, nothing wrong with having a goal but please do not have unrealistic ones or unachievable ones as with any WLS it is but a ''TOOL''. Been there and lost the ''TOOL''. Still working on the Healthy Journey and now that is what it is about but the scale thing still has me fighting and kicking on any given day. As far as husbands mine never was or has or even still dis- agrees with WLS but then again he has never had a weight problem or health problems DUH Hope this helps you..........

Thanks for your reply. I just want to fit in those damn leather pants!! LOL

Hey Kat, You know what, we never know where we are going to get when we succeed in our journies.  For me i have never seen a size smaller than a 12.  So to even think of getting in a 6 i'd be a crazy person.  but I am a large frame.  I read somewhere how to figure this out, and i imagine so have you.   There is a woman on the main board that started out at 380 something and she is now down to like 136 pounds.  It CAN be done, so who knows. Keep the goal in mind, it can't hurt to set the goal.  It will make you work that much harder!!!

kat -  you bring up two very separate and unrelated concerns. i also saw your posting on the PS board - i don't feel like you got any particularly "nasty" messages. shari was just pointing out that you need to be losing weight for many reasons that have nothing to do with clothing size. i've been there, and trust me, that's not enough of a motivation or goal to get through what you need to get through. the first  issue is the unsupportive husband. clearly, its not about what he said and whether or not he is right (can you or can't you get to X size). what i am reading in your post is that you were hurt by his unsupportive and negative attitude. the conversation caused you to doubt yourself and question yourself and what you can achieve.  you talk on your profile about your dissatisfaction with your marriage and this incident seems pretty much in line with those feelings. this conversation is probably quite revealing about the dynamics of your relationship, but i'm not going to read any more into it - i would urge you to think about it some more.  you talk a lot on your profile about your experiences with losing weight and the emotional issues involved in all of this - weight as protection, getting scared when you are succesful and regaining weight. you definitely seem to be aware of your emotional experience, which is a great first step toward making significant change.  those are very important issues to deal with, especially if you are going to have WLS and lose weight very rapidly. your fears will not go away just because the weight comes off faster. you can just as easily sabotage WLS as you can any lifestyle program (it just might take a little longer). are you in therapy? you don't have to answer that of course, but i think you really might be able to benefit from some sort of counseling. the second issue is whether or not size 6 leather pants are acheiveable for you - only you can know that. more important than can you get there - can you stay there? i think of oprah when she did that liquid diet and squeezed into those tiny jeans that didn't fit her anymore the day after that show was recorded. i know that i will never be a size 6. thats just a fact that i have come to terms with. it would be too much of a sacrifice for me to get there and i know there is no way i could sustain it, so why set myself up for failure? i am okay with being a 12 after being a 24 for 10 years. i am even happier when i can buy a 10. i own one skirt that is an 8, but i'm not sure it really fits anymore. i've never worn it - i think i only bought it because i was so excited i fit into it. now, i will NEVER buy a size 14. that's my own personal issue....but moving on.... sometimes people look for a reason not to make the lifestyle changes they need to make. it reminds me of the people who are pre-op WLS who post on the plastic surgery board about how they are not sure they want to have WLS because they might have excess skin that they won't like. so what? hopefully you want to lose weight to be a healthy person, on the inside and on the outside and a size 16 would still be better than where you are now, even if its not a size 6. like everyone here has said, you need to set short term and long term goals. SMART goals - specific, measureable, attainable, realistic and timely. how about aiming for lowering your cholesterol by X points or getting below 300? clothing size is SO arbitrary based on brand etc. and thinking about a size 6 and how much you need to go to get there can be very overwhelming and discouraging as opposed to choosing something that is more realistic at THIS time. maybe aim for size 24. then when you get there, aim for a size 18 and so on and so forth.  i don't know if any of that makes sense or is helpful for you but those are my midnight ramblings....time for bed.

I am not good at American sizes.. so please forgive me talking Australian sizes here BUT

I started at size 22-24 Australian sizes and weighed at least 258lbs (probably more but I refused to step on the scales when bigger).  My initial goal was to be in the 'normal' size range we have here (sizes 8-16).  I cried the day I was able to buy a 16.  I felt so normal.  Then I thought... 14 would be nice... just because not all clothes fit the same way and I wanted to make sure I fitted all 'normal' clothes. So I dropped into a 14 and thought hmmm lose a bit more and try for 12- 12 would be my DREAM COME TRUE. So I got into size 12.  10+ sizes lower than where I started.

A friend of mine started getting quite mean about the possibility that I would get into a size 10.  She told me in no uncertain terms that I would not get into a 10, and no "woman" would EVER fit an 8, size 8 was for teenagers and anorexics according to her.  So imagine my elation when I was finally a size 10!!!!!!  Then, just recently, I have had trouble fitting into some 10's... and have had to go for size 8's!!!!!! I now weigh 130lbs.  Bear in mind that I haven't even had my LBL yet...! I achieved this through diet and exercise.

So all those itsy bitsy teeny weeny ridiculous clothes that I thought were only for 'other girls' now FIT ME.  I had HUGE hips, I still have a pear figure... but that pear fits into those clothes!

Don't be discouraged, it can happen!

As for hubby.  When he doubts you, shrug your shoulders then prove him wrong!

Em

 

Thank you for your thoughtful, nonjudgemental, interesting post. I appreciate the time you took to share your story about sizes. You answered my question!!! Congrats to you!!

Hi Em...wow..how gorgeous are YOU! You have done amazing things.  I thought of an old joke...under all this fat I have had a size 8 body...I just didn't want to scratch it!

Thanks for your kind words...

Yes, I LOVE that joke!

Maybe I shouldn't have hidden in the old skin so long, I love life in this new skin so much more.

Em

sounds to me like your husband doesnt want to see you disappointed.  He probably didnt mean any harm - but was trying to protect you from yourself. You and I are about the same beginning weight.  Shari was in the 350+ range too.  Personally, I don't ever expect to see a size 6.  I would be tickled with a 12!  Don't get me wrong... If I get to a 6 that would be fine too! Surgery or no surgery, I am going to eat well and get healthy.  Size will simply be a good byproduct.