weekend regrets?

Neecee O.
on 8/20/07 12:30 pm - CA
well i had successes and regrets! Regrets out of the way first: too much supper last night. PLUS a dessert potato chips after the bike ride. Success: 1. 2.5 hour bike ride with DH Sunday! 2.  did not drink *too* much, only three drinks each night.  Stiff ones, but hey. 3.  Saturday night:  had  ONE serving of potato salad. In general, i rested a lot, played a lot, canned zuccini relish (8  pints)  AND made some awesome italian sauce (seeded peeled fresh tomatoes, garlic, fresh basil, all cooked down and sealed into jars), made fresh potato salad.
Donnamarie
on 8/20/07 9:25 pm - NY

Hey Neecee, You know, this is a great post.  Let me tell you why. LOL I posted on another post that I went to the Rib Fest and was "good".  What the hell that means I don't know.  I didn't partake in ribs -- AT THE RIB FEST -- instead I had a piece of lightly barbequed grilled chicken breast.  How boring am I?  I passed up the maple cotton candy, the fudge and the icecream.  I'm good, whoooo hooooo.

When I got home though I snuck a piece of the leftover fudge.  OMG, I'm an animal!!!  Seriously, I kinda wonder whether it would have been different if I wasn't so "good" at the Rib Fest, yanno??? I would have rather eaten in front of the people I was with, in moderation, then to sneak it later.  See, I'm at the point where I'm aiming for the good habits to come, and the weight loss to be maintained.  But if I keep on self-sabotaging and not having my head on right, I'm nowhere. My successes were that I continue to work out 4-5 times a week.  I'm proud of that.  I am also doing good 85% of the time.  Again, what is good?  I wished I didn't have to segment my eating around good or bad. Oh well you asked!! LOL

"Accountability first to yourself, then nobody else matters"

        
Neecee O.
on 8/20/07 11:38 pm - CA

"I would have rather eaten in front of the people I was with, in moderation, then to sneak it later." This sums it up for me as well! I am probably in a spot to maintain as well. Still kind of thinking about that for me...as Andy has said, am I "settling" for this weight? or is this about as reasonable as I can expect for my lifestyle?   I am trying hard to be able to eat rich foods in small amounts..cuz when you think about it...what IS the difference between eating a lot of lowfat stuff you DON'T really want and a small portion of something scrumptious?

This is an OA topic for me and a good OA group works with people on that. There is no good food bad food...all can be tolerated in moderation.  A renowned study where one group was given lowfat versions of foods, say puddings, meats in gravy, etc, the other other group had the full fat versions of the same food.  Guess what? overall, we are programmed to eat a certain amount of CALORIES...the group with the low fat stuff ate as many calories - they ate more bulk, but just as many calories.  This is not a newsflash to those of us who have been in this arena for as long as you & I have!

 

Donnamarie
on 8/21/07 3:26 am - NY

You know, you look fantastic.  Your muscle tone is amazing and I think you look great.  I know what you mean though about settling.  For me I really wanted to hit 200.  I wanted to, I really did.  But my body loves me at 230.  I was able to get down to 215 for 8.2 seconds last year but it was back up in days.  I think back to when I was married at 20 years old and I had gotten down to 188 on a really low calorie high protein diet.  I mean, the thing consisted of organ meats, gross.  A "break the plateau" day was hot lemon water, hard boiled eggs and grapefruit.  Gosh, anyone can lose weight on that, huh?  I too believe our bodies establish a set point.  We may not love it but it is what it is. You know what, I don't do a whole lot of the low fat or sugar free thing.  I really don't.  I figure it's still calories, period.  I will never eat sugar free oreos, to me they are the same.  Coupled with the fact that overeaters or bingers rarely taste their food anyhow, what's the different in taste to me.  Not big in the difference area, huh?

There just has to come a time where this all kicks in, isn't there?  Are we there yet, is there hope on the horizon?

"Accountability first to yourself, then nobody else matters"

        
Jupiter6
on 8/21/07 6:11 am - Near Media, Pa- South of Philly, NJ

The concept of that "setpoint" is what ultimately made me consider the RNY. First off, I am not twenty anymore, despite what my sense of humor thinks. My surgeon (*****ally is not one to seell the surgery-- he probably dissuades and many people as he encourages) explained how the concept of "setpoints" seems to work in SMO people---

He said that for people who weigh over 350 pounds, they lose at a pretty good clip, and consistently. Then he explained to me that for a variety of reasons-- some understood and some kind of vague-- many people-- even those on super low cal diets (under 800 a day) simply hit a setpoint and they cannot lose any more. For a person of my size, he estimated that place to be in the mid 250s-- a little over 100 pounds less than my starting weight. I have seen this in my SMO friends-- very conscientious ones, in fact... they got down to a place, and there just was no more "give." Most of them accepted this, enjoyed their newfound mobility, and accepted this new version of themselves of the healthiest version they would likely achieve. They stay active and exercise and continue to eat well. For me, I gave it a lot of thought. Looks wise, I have no trouble with 250-- I think it's a kinda nice size on me. But on the way up, I recall already being in crushing pain-- and knew it wouldn't be better on the way down, now 15 years older. I had to take a shot at a plan that could get me a little lower. Thus the surgery. I knew I could reasonably expect to lose 150 pounds from it-- so I lowered the starting weight through diet and exercise to help push those numbers down. Right now, I am not sure that approach accomplished much, but I had to give it a shot. Based on the average results (which I am already lagging behind on), I should be able to get closer to 200 pounds. I am pretty sure I could deal with that-- and with increased mobility, might be able to attain a good level of fitness, too. But you know, if 230 is where you've landed, and it looks like that's where things are, and you feel well, and mobile, and healthy, maybe you need to change your angle from losing to maintaining. There's no actual difference, of course, just a head thing. Hope isn't in the losses, but in achieving health and wellness. If you are there, or nearly there, acknowledge that to yourself, and do it with pride.

 "Oh sweet and sour Jesus, that is GOOD!" - Stephen Colbert  Lap RNY 7/07-- Lap Gallbladder 5/08--  
     Emergency Bowel Repair
6/08 -Dr. Meilahn, Temple U.  
 Upper and Lower Bleph/Lower Face Lift 
12/08 
     Fraxel Repair 2/09-- Lower Bleph Re-Do 5/09  -Dr. Pontell, Media PA  Mastopexy/Massive 
     Brachioplasty/ Extended Abdominoplasty 
(plus Mons Lift and Upper Leg lift) / Hernia Repair
      6/24/09 ---Butt Lift and Lateral Thighplasty Scheduled 7/6/10
 - Dr. Ivor Kaplan VA Beach
      
Total Cost: $33,500   Start wt: 368   RNY wt: 300  Goal wt: 150   Current wt: 148.2  BMI: 24.7

Donnamarie
on 8/21/07 9:13 pm - NY
Shari, I just began to find that doing all the same things didn't yield the weight loss that it had in the past.  My body clearly wants to hang onto all of this.  I am good where I am, I really enjoy my body here.  I guess for me it's a mind thing and that 200 is a number I really wanted to achieve.  I lost all my weight in one year and now for the past year it's been pretty much a maintenance thing.  I think that I do have to change my mindset and realize that this is maintenance and if I am able to lose more, then great.  If not then I need to realize that losing over 120 pounds and keeping it off is staggering. What I can't help getting out of my head are all the people attaining the 150's and 160's at my height.  I know, we can't compare ourselves to one another but for me this is where I get bogged down.  There are people just getting approved for surgery at my weight!!!  I am at a BMI of around 32 and honestly I had hoped to be able to get that in the overweight range.  So yeah, my obsession is about the numbers and what they supposedly say about me.  I am working very hard on changing that mindset. I know that I have made some real changes in the way I look at food.  I am conscious 100% of the time about what I am doing.  I have slip ups but I want to get to the point where I don't look at them as slip ups anymore.  I may get there yet!!! I hope you are doing okay and that you are happy about gearing up to go back to school.  It's almost here!!

"Accountability first to yourself, then nobody else matters"

        
Neecee O.
on 8/21/07 11:49 pm - CA
32 bmi???  man, you are getting there, Lady!  You also look wonderful (thanks for the compliment btw).  Funny, you did not mention the peeps out there who would KILL to look like you.  You compare the other direction, but as you well know, somebody is reading this thinking I WISH I WAS 230. It is such a head game, right? We don't want to be complacent, we don't want to appear or live too rigidly.  What the hell?
brko
on 8/21/07 6:31 am, edited 8/21/07 11:10 pm - MO

Donna, To me you seem to have your head on right.  It seems like if you're not perfectly on plan all the time you are very down on yourself.  If I can obtain the mind set that you have and maintain it , I will be extremely happy.  I'm sure you know what is best for you and for some people falling off is just harder than staying on their game all the time.  I do get that too, but it's bound to happen at some point.  I'm assuming that you want to lose more weight and are not ready to maintain.  Whatever makes you happy you should strive for.  I realize now if you don't put a considerable amount of effort into the life changes your going  to end up right back where you started from.  I think before I used to always look at this as a temporary thing that I have to do.  Now I know better. Brenda

sonora
on 8/20/07 9:54 pm
No regrets this time around. My successes were that I ate normally (no binges) and got in my brief cardio (Sunday) and walk (Saturday) as promised. It's been my TOM since yesterday so I'm surprised the binge monster didn't attack over the weekend. Surprised and elated! Well, last night was tough with wanting to overeat, but that's about it. Yay for everyone on the exercise!
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