Just have to say it.

So it wasn't just me!  I found those posts irritating as well and stopped reading because I found them pompous and self-riteous.  Funny thing is, I don't see anyone like that on the RNY board.  No one who has proclaimed themselves the master know-it-all of RNY.    Sometimes I do want to say to people - you are only 50 yo 75 lbs overweight.  Why would you take this step? I would not if I were in your shoes.  Then I stop and think I am not in their shoes.  Maybe to them those 50-75 lbs are just as bad to them as my 120+ lbs are to me and it is not for me to decide.

I say kudos to those of you who lose weight without surgery. I lost over 100 lbs once by dieting and my biggest regret is not keeping it off.  If I had I would not be taking the risk of having surgery.  

now donna, you've been on the PS board long enough to know that it is not the most logical place on this site. its just a magical realm where people are mostly in their own little universe. they ask about procedures, going to mexico, complications and if insurance will cover a face lift - you give your experience and opinions, which are often ignored (well at least i feel like mine are...). they ask questions which they already know the answer to but hope you wil tell them something different. i'm sure the 60 lbs from goal person has heard you should be stable and preferably at goal weight but was hoping to hear something different. i don't really have a point, just rambling thoughts as usual.... 

Hey Andrea.  You made me laugh when you said it isn't the most logical place on this site.  Mary W and I call it "board logic".  It's the same board logic that states if I was up 10 pounds after my LBL then surely I "lost" 20 pounds since my LBL because I have lost another 10 on top of the 10 I "gained".  Board logic!!! LOL And the folks who run off 3 days after LBL to go on a trip and then 2 weeks later wonder why they are opened up on all their incisions and leaking all over the place. :shrug:  I feel like you do, that most of my stuff is ignored.  No, I am not an expert, but I'e been there at least. But yeah, you are right.  and it's like neecee said, take what you need and leave the rest. 

Do we read a story of someone on a weight loss support board who professes not to eat junk, only consuming 1000 calories a day, exercising like mad, yet fails to lose weight.  How do you answer someone like that? While I don't think that comment was aimed at me, I just posted something similar to it and you all were great at answering it and I think your answers were right on!  I've been doing the elliptical at least 4xs a week for an hour every time with the same resistance and have been keeping my calories right around 1200 and I seem to be plateaued. Some suggested mixing up my workout - which is exactly what I needed to do and started that this weekend. I think that if someone asks a question and you feel like answering, answer it truthfully. I appreciate the honesty!  I would rather be told point blank what I'm doing wrong rather than well... "it could be this, it could be that, just keep doing what you're doing, you'll lose weight!" -- that's not going to help me. I believe that's what the point of these boards are - to cheer each other on, help and support - not applaud mistakes and failures! JMHO

Thank you for not taking my post personally.  It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.   A plateau is some place where you are spending a whole lot of time.  I think somewhere I read that it has to be more than 3 weeks or something like that.   As far as what you are doing, your question was valid.  The only one that knows if it wasn't valid is you.  If you are snacking in between meals and really not sure where your calories are, only you will know.  That is the meaning of my post. For me, for instance.  I was eating all my regular stuff, seemingly doing great to those on the outside looking in.  But I had begun to fall back into a lot of my old habits, obsessing about food and sneaking food, which is a huge issue of mine.  When I mentioned I had gained 20 pounds from my lowest weight my SO said, no way!!!!! You aren't eating a whole lot, how are you gaining.  I would have been a total fake if I sat there and told him that I was doing great and still not losing.  Where would it have gotten me?  That's the kind of thing I am talking about.  Total accountability to yourself before pretending that we don't know why.   Nobody here is going to judge what we eat.  christ, we all have our own journies that we are struggling on.  What do I care if you (collective you) post that you only ate 1000 calories when you clearly ate closer to 3000?  I'm not going to know.  But if you come here asking me why you aren't losing weight when eating 1000 calories a day, I'm probably going to ask if you are being honest with yourself and tracking your food.  If your not then I am not the person to ask about this stuff because I'm not "in the know".   I think I've babbled here, but I hope you get what I was saying.