Did you all know this?

Good on ya' Angela.  A bit of encouragement.  And no, I didn't expect this much debate when I started this thread.  My threads usually spark barely any interest. lol

Well damnit I'm thinking I should just give up and get WLS. :)

Have you seriously looked into having WLS?  As you know I promised hubby I would wait six months before making a decision but went ahead and talked to my PCP about it, sooooooo...she said they would want a chart where I came in and weighed once a month for 6 months so we went ahead then and started doing that.  If that becomes my decision, I don't want to have to wait another six months before I can have it done.  Are you going to have good insurance at your new job?  Do you have a waiting period?  All these things you need to be considering now if you are *seriously* considering this option.  Are you leaning towards RNY or LapBand?  I think I would have LapBand. JMO

I would have RNY. Lapband is not restrictive enough for me.  I feel like in the long run I'd fail with it.  I thought about DS as well but I am afraid of the complications around it.  RNY is a happy median for me.  I also talked to my physician about it as well. I was going in for weigh-ins and stuff as well but with the insurance problems I haven't been back.  Before I started really trying hard at this I only showed gains when I went to weigh in.  He gave me all kinds of diet pills and stuff but nothing worked.  It wasn't until I made up my mind and admitted that I ate way to much that I began to lose the weight, without the pills. 

how did you come to this conclusion from this conversation?? sorry to break it to you dear - but the same thing happens with people who have had WLS. talk to people who are 3, 4, 5 years out and they will tell you the same thing. the body accomodates. what sucks for them though is that their body adjusts to living off 800 cals since that is what they're eating the first 18 months or so. this means that they appear to put on larger amounts of weigh quickly when they do fall off the wagon. again, go check out the "wls graduates" or "failed WLS" boards - you'll see a lot of people talking about weight gain a few years out. over time as the body continues to adjust and the stomach stretches out some, most can eat anything and in larger amounts that in those first 18 months.  bottom line - surgery or not - there is no easy way to do it. the body is too smart for that and will do what it pleases, no matter how much we try to train it and rein it in.

Wow you guys really did miss me!  I was kinda kidding about the whole WLS thing.  More or less I made the comment to stir up trouble!   It was also in response to Neecee's post about some people not being able to lose weight with WLS.  I've done lotsa research on it and while it's somewhat easier right up front to lose the weight the journey is the same in the long run.  I haven't completely made up my mind yet about WLS but it is still appealing to me. I know all the facts about statistics.  My feeling is that it will allow me to incarcerate my demon, for lack of a better term, for a year or so and then help me to keep him on probation afterwards. Whereas now, my demon is at large and is constantly fighting with me, making me overeat.  WLS would pretty much put an end to that for a while.  Sorda like steel sleeves on a heroin addict.  It's temporary but it lets ya at least have a break from the addiction and give you some time to build self discipline.

Stir up trouble? Well I guess you did that all right.