Anyone had success without WLS???

Chris I.
on 3/21/07 12:01 am
Just wondering if there is anyone here who has had success without having WLS.  I know I've had small successes in the past. (See profile pictures.) I can't really make up my mind on WLS and worse than that I'm afraid the insurance isn't going to cover it.  If I make up my mind to have WLS then I believe I'll search out my own insurance instead of my employers.  Anyways, the point of my post is I've decied to try and lose the weight without WLS. (again......)  I was wondering if anyone here has had long term success. 3-5 year success that is.  What did you do? My start weight was 330lbs. That was about 2.5 weeks ago. I'm down to 310lbs-315lbs (morning weight after LONG urination, lol love tha****er, and before breakfast.) Here's what I'm doing so far: - Cut out diet sodas and all other beverages except 2 cups of coffee daily with non-dairy creamer and sweet-n-low. (I prefer equal..) - Aside from the coffee I drink only water and I consume about 80-100 ounces a day. - Now eat 3 meals a day. Breakfast usually consists of two sausage/bacon, egg & cheese breakfast taquito. (Covenient store.. ) Lunch is some type of sandwich and a side like salad, chili, etc or small portions of other types of food.  I eat dinner no later than 8pm..When I don't have school at night I eat my last meal at 6-6:30pm. Typical 3 course meal with a serving size spoonful of each side, (rice, green veggies, corn, etc) and a single serving of the main course. (1 porkchop or 1 chicken breast for example.) - Recently starting taking Zantrex-3 in the morning before breakfast. Tonight I will take it before dinner. - About once a week I get about 15-30 minutes of what I consider to be abnormal physical activity.  It is not consecutive. My heart rate is up for short intervals. This is usually from working in the yard. (Spreading grass seed for example.) I know excercise is key but right now I'm fighting routine excercise tooth and nail. I will do my best to do strenuous activities but the word excerise and the phrase 'working out' make me very angry... Chris

 -=- CHRiS aka "Butterfinger Ho" -=-   

    
                                         40 lbs lost while pursuing surgery.
  
(deactivated member)
on 3/21/07 2:16 am - Lawton, OK
Hi, I haven't completed my non-surgical weight loss, but I wanted to respond and let you know you are not alone!  I was going through the process of WLS and then the NUT said 'we' (as if she wasn't only 110 lbs!) were going to do this the old fashion way!  She gave me some good tips that I didn't know before.  According to her we should take in 10% x 1000 of our ideal body weight in calories a day.  (like - I want to get down to 140 lbs, so I take in no more than 1400 calories a day).  The majority of your calories should be taken in before late afternoon.  And she said to snack halfway between each meal on something that is less than 200 calories.  So far I have been steadily losing.  It isn't drastic like after WLS, but it is steady.  I am not hungry all day and really have to make myself eat 3 X a day.  The water intake is a big part of weightloss, too.  but it seems you have that part covered! I exercise every day for about an hour.  This has been the hardest part; not so much the exercise, but making the time for it.  I have finally put my stationary bike and treadmill in front of the TV and spend my hour on one or the other and watch TV while doing it.  Seems to make it easier to do. Anyways!  Wanted to let you know I am on the same road as you!  Good luck!
Chris I.
on 3/21/07 3:08 am

Hi! I'm not sure there is ever a time at which we'll be through with weight loss. Perhaps we can consider ourselves done at our goal weight but I know if I think like that I'll end up back at square negative two a year later!  It seems whenever I lose weight I always gain it back times two!  My doctor had me on a <1500 calorie diet at one time.  I couldn't seem to stick to it. I kept trying to convince him that he originally told me 1500 calories per meal!    I've also heard about eating the snacks in between meals but it seems I'm never hungry at snack time.  By the time the meal comes I'm usually not all that hungry...Until I see and smell the food then it's hard to stop myself. For example, today I promised a co-worker (who also suffers from obesity but hasn't decided to lose yet.) that I would go to lunch with her. We both love Indian cuisine and decided to go today.  I told myself I wasn't going to gorge myself but that's exactly what I did.  So I flunked for the day but I'm not gonna dwell on it.  I should be full for quite sometime and perhaps I can skip dinner.   My sister also suggested I eat a can of tuna before bed, around 8pm. She suggested using olive oil or vinegar and to avoid mayo. She explained it's hard to digest and your body ends up burning calories trying to digest it. I don't know how true that is but I figure I could try it. Perhaps if I'm hungry tonight I'll eat some. She recently returned from Iraq where she lost about 85lbs. She said she ate whatever she wanted but she excercised for 1-2 hours a day and drank tremendous amouts of water. So I know exercise and definitely work!  It was either that or the desert! In 2003, I used water, high protein, portion control and ephedrine to lose 50 lbs. That worked quite well, I wish I wouldn't have stopped. (I also quit smoking in 2004 which may be the reason I started eating so much again.) I attribute most of the weight loss to the ephedrine and water. The ephedrine really curbed my appetite well. My appetite next to the lack of exercise seems to be my achilles heel.  Since ephedrine is no longer available I know I'm going to have to pick up exercise. I'm just not sure how I can get myself into a routine. I think I can find time for exercise. However, I'm afraid I can't develop the self discipline to do it like I should. The cold hard truth is that I am a quitter and I'm lazy. I keep looking for a panacea, a simple 1 liner answer to my weight problem. I know it doesn't exist but I have hope!   Nonetheless, I think I'm going to succeed this time. I have a new motivator.  When I met my wife she was 114lbs.  Since then she's acquired my overeating habits. She got up to 180lbs recently and is back down to 170lbs. The good news about that is now she's completely understanding about my weight and how hard it is to lose. But that's not the kinda good news I like to hear. As much as I value her sympathy I never wanted her to have to go through this. I never thought that obesity was contagious!  Anyway, It's that guilt that's driving me to change in hopes that she'll follow suit. I think I'll stop rambling now!  Good luck to you as well in your journey!

 -=- CHRiS aka "Butterfinger Ho" -=-   

    
                                         40 lbs lost while pursuing surgery.
  
sickofH20
on 3/21/07 5:00 am - OR
Good Job I just started this process and it is going to work this time I was so close to the RNY  and cancled 1 day before...  Can you tell me with NUT stands forLOL I don't know and i see  it all the time.. Virgie
Chris I.
on 3/21/07 5:11 am
Nutritionist I believe, but someone who is 110lbs and tells you 'we' are going to lose weight could probably be considered a "nut" as well. :)

 -=- CHRiS aka "Butterfinger Ho" -=-   

    
                                         40 lbs lost while pursuing surgery.
  
sickofH20
on 3/21/07 5:19 am - OR

THANK YOU :)

Christa :]
on 3/21/07 5:42 am - MI
VSG on 03/13/12
That's funny!  
Neecee O.
on 3/21/07 7:39 am - CA

Have I had success?  snort....only about one million times!  Kept it off, you say?  Now that's a diffferent story. The overview:  I was up to 230# at one time - my highest recorded weight. (21 years ago).   Today I am 190.  I balloooned close - 220 recently and now on the down side.  Most of these past 21 years, i hovered around 200-205 Here are the changes I have implemented over the past 21 years: walking one hour daily 5x weekly biking periodically gym membership (free weights) 12-15 years swimming class hiking ate semi-vegetarian for 7 years cut portions went to OA for four years.  tried every stinkin diet known to man. (well excpet optifast) tried most legal and illegal drugs to cut appetite journaled whined been a member on two health sites (this one and oanother WW 3x cut soda, all caffeine, for like 4 years but then brought both back eventually does not make one whit of diff on my fatass.

I think there must be fifty ways to do this with success.  It's a matter of changing up and trying it til ya hit what works.

andy113
on 3/21/07 1:16 pm - Non-Op, SC

hi chris -  i haven't been reading this forum much as i've been doing crappy and feeling sorry for myself but i wanted to write back to you and let you know that YES it can definitely be done. and you don't need xantrex or ephedrine to help you get there. like you wrote, if there was some magical cure or panacea, we would have all figured this out by now and no one would need WLS. i have been in "maintenance" mode since 2003 with 110 lb weight loss (i bounce around between the 110-120 mark depending on the cir****tances, time of year, time of month etc). i went to the Duke Diet and Fitness Center, which is a very moderate lifestyle-change oriented program. in fact, they just launched an online program for people who cannot come to the center at www.dukediet.com - they are also coming out with a book of the program in april. my sister also lost weight with this program (and is "laura" under success stories on the website.) bottom line is that it must be a total commitment to a different kind of life. one that involves DAILY movement of some kind and an increased awareness of what you are putting in your body. you also need to work on the emotional issues related to food and growing up/living obese. you need take the word DIET out of your vocabulary. break it down into small steps. no, you wil not suddenly wake up one day wanting to run a marathon. start with 10 minutes on the treadmill or a walk around the block every day. then the next week try 20 minutes, maybe twice around the block. i will often walk up the 7 flights of stairs to my apartment on the days when i don't feel like going to the gym. set small realistic goals. wanting it is not enough. you must be ready for it and prepared to make a lifetime commitment. i had to accept that as unfair as it is, this is the genetic card i've been dealt. i will never be able to just eat freely without consequences. that was a hard realization for me. you must be patient and not give up - you didn't put the weight on overnight and you won't lose it overnight. and even if you eventually do decide to have surgery,you still will NEED to change your eating and exercise habits to find long-term success with that method. duke promotes 3 signature components to love term succes: - monitoring - writing down your food in whatever way you can maintain it, whether that is using a palm pilot program or a blank notebook, you must hold yourself accountable. you can do it by calories or by using more intuitive methods, like a hunger/fullness scale - exercise - as you said, it is a must. preferably daily cardio but at the very least ADLs - activities of daily living such as parking further away from the store, walking up stairs instead of using the elevator - support - again, whatever you need. whether than is weigh****chers meeting, this forum, a personal trainer, a walking buddy etc these is no easy way out but i know their methods are well researched and have a proven track record - i know several individuals myself who have gone there, lost more than 100 lbs and kept it off for 4, 8 , 12 years. anyway, now i'm just babbling, but i wanted to chime in. i do consider myself a successful weight loss story (even though i tend to forget about this and get hard on myself - i'm working on that). good luck is reaching your goals.

Chris I.
on 3/21/07 11:13 pm
I've been changing things up for years too.  Some things have worked, those are things I've kept with me this time. (i.e. water, not eating after 6-7pm , portion control) The one change I need to make that I can't seem to do is my personality, my lifestyle. I think my biggest fear of all is the lifestyle change. I'm not sure I understand that fear completely though.  I know I despise tasteless food like pretzels, raw veggies, protein bars/shakes, fruits (yeah, i know they're sweet but they're icky!). I don't really care for cold foods either.  In other words I hate all the stuff that's healthy.  I don't despise exercise, I despise routine! What I have to do is give up everything I love, good food and my slipshod lifestyle! I have to exchange it for something I love more, being thin. It's a hell of a sacrifice and I want to make that sacrifice but my fear is I can't make the change long term. I like to think I really know myself and I know how I am with commitments. It's my personality and partly my genetics that's got me in this predicament. I'm sick and tired of it. I am successful in my career but I want that success to pour over into my personal life. I want to be HAPPY, organized, athletic, outgoing, and healthy. Half the time I can't stand being around myself, it's a wonder I have such good friends! So how do you switch from this avant-garde lifestyle to a more meticulous, clocklike person?  Andy you proposed using the Duke Diet which kind of holds you to the schedule and routine. (mental thought: How does one take diet out of their vocabulary when the clinic's name they attend is comprised of the word? lol) Were you like me? How did you make the switch; the decision to commit to this? I must also mention I'm quite the tightwad and paying the price of a clinic disturbs me. I'm just so afraid I will fail,...again...  then I'd be fat with a thin wallet! lol  Regardless of my fears, I want to reach my goal weight and stay there, I don't want to fluctuate. I want to commit myself to this change. I want to quit wantin' and just do it. (Hmm, why do I suddenly want a new pair of Nikes?) Todays progress: It's 9am.  I've had my usual two taquitos. I've also had 50 ounces of water and pee'd three times. It's time to go again! C'mon bladder, expand!, you're holding me back!  I think I'll try a snack at 10am and move lunch to noon instead of 12:30.

 -=- CHRiS aka "Butterfinger Ho" -=-   

    
                                         40 lbs lost while pursuing surgery.
  
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