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Jennifer S.
on 3/21/07 3:25 pm - St. Louis, MO
Topic: RE: Are there Surgeons not related to CLOS group?
I have written to Dr. Rutledge in Henderson (head CLOS Dr.) and he responds quickly but with few words.  Apparently his group is the only group doing this surgery.  See my post in the topic posted by someone else on this board "what's the diff?"  I think they have offices in Michigan, Texas and somewhere out east in addition to their Henderson, NV office.  Dr.  de la Torre in St. Louis has a great program if you want to go with the RNY.  He is in St. Louis, is a star surgeon and as I am going through the process there, the only hoops I have seen are from my insurance company.  Generally, the doc. doesn't require a diet and exercise program prior to surgery, but I am sure every case is different.  Even as a self-pay, I doubt you can get through this without some hoops.  It is pretty serious stuff and the surgeons want to make sure you are a good candidate for surgery before putting you under and cutting up your innards.  If a surgeon didn't look at your medical history I would run screaming from the office and never look back. As for the success rate, I was a little concerned at the lack of data on the success rate.  Since Dr. Rutledge's group seems to be the only group doing the surgery and others don't seem interested in following I am concerned about the validity of the statistics they offer.
Jennifer S.
on 3/21/07 3:13 pm, edited 3/21/07 3:16 pm - St. Louis, MO
Topic: RE: Whats the difference?

I have done some research on several surgeries including MGB. I am not a medical person so please do your own research, but this might give you a start.  So far, I don't think any insurance covers it.  My insurance company calls it experimental, but my surgeon's office said that it is just a twist on an older surgery.  My surgeon won't do it because it involves making a "loop" or a bend or something in the intestine.  He believes that could cause harm, e.g. hernias or something.  I am not sure exactly because I didn't dig that deep once I realized it wasn't covered. Apparently, there is only one doctors' group that does the MGB and they have several offices around the country (I think, in Michigan, Texas and maybe one of the Carolinas).  The web site the last person posted is their site.  These docs are based in Henderson, NV and the main guy is Dr. Rutledge.  I seriously considered going to Dr. Rutledge, because I could stay with my sister who lives in Henderson, but I decided for reasons of follow-up, concerns about the surgery and several other reasons to go with the RNY close to home. I am lucky because we have a star surgeon locally.  If there is a complication I want to be near my surgeon. You may not have that luxury.

They boast a shorter recovery time, a shorter time under the knife and better results.  I don't think the results are verified yet scientifically since these docs are the only ones doing it, but they seem to have done a number of them.  When I checked into the actual time of surgery Dr. Rutledge's time isn't much better than an RNY my surgeon Dr. de la Torre does in St. Louis (he will be doing my RNY).  Right now, the RNY is the "gold standard" of bariatric surgeries, in addition to the lap band which is done by many for patients who have objections to stapling off such a large portion of their stomachs. It does appear that Dr. Rutledge charges much less for the MGB surgery than good RNY surgeons charge for theirs, but I didn't check to see what other services an MGB patient might be charged.   As an aside, Dr. Rutledge's web site is just a mess of text.  I felt like it was just a quickly thrown up bunch of words.  For some reason that just bothers me. I will say one thing, as an attorney I found it much easier to practice in a field where there were many other attorneys to bounce ideas off of.  When I started practicing in an area where I was one of the few I felt less secure because I didn't have anyone to consult with.  Two brains are better than one, three brains are better than two, etc.  ALL surgeons need the support of their associations, they learn from the experience of others and they compare notes all the time.  Dr. Rutledge may be a genius, but he doesn't have enough other bariatric surgeons in the country to learn from and share experiences.  This is just my opinion, but I wouldn't try a surgery where the surgeons don't have a lot of support, just like I wouldn't buy a car in its first model year.

These are just my thoughts.  If you are interested in MGB contact the American Society of Bariatric Surgeons at:  http://www.asbs.org/index.shtml or the National Institutes of Health NIH) at:  http://www.nih.gov/.  I would call them and ask questions because there is not much on the Internet other than the Dr. Rutledge and his group. Hope this helped.

* Gail R *
on 3/18/07 11:56 am - SF Bay Area, CA
Topic: MGB available in CA???
Hi Everyone, I am active on the CA board and I have never heard of the MGB. Is it available CA? I thought I had done all my research and know all about rebular RNY surgery, but now I am nterested in this surgery.

~Gail R~  high wt.288,  surg wt 274, LW 143, CW 153,  GW164

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on 3/18/07 8:02 am - Youngstown, OH
Topic: RE: Whats the difference?
Hi, This MGB thingy looks iteresting to me too. I'm in NYC and I don't think anyone here does it. If they do, I have not heard a word. But for U my dear, I have the website U can check for further details, the differences, etc. It's: http://clos.net/ Best of luck to you. :-}
shar S.
on 3/17/07 8:31 pm - Buffalo Grove, IL
Topic: MGB vs gastric sleeve
What is the difference between the 2?

 

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wbrco
on 3/17/07 2:57 pm
Topic: RE: Are there Surgeons not related to CLOS group?
There is a MGB surgeon in Joplin MO, but I don't remember his name...  Maybe someone else has a name??
wbrco
on 3/17/07 2:54 pm
Topic: RE: MGB Surgeons In Tulsa, Ok?
There is an MGB surgeon in the Joplin MO area -- you will need to do some searching since I don't remember his name..
autismmom
on 3/15/07 6:22 am - energy, IL
Topic: Whats the difference?
Whats the difference in this surgery and the regular gastric bypass as far as losing weight and eating? Is it hard to find a doctor to do this surgery? How do i find one in Il.
radiochickgso
on 3/14/07 7:19 am - Lexington, NC
Topic: RE: Are there Surgeons not related to CLOS group?
They do the MGB in High Point NC at High Point Regional Hospital.  They used to be CLOS but separated last May.  The Hoops you speak of ... are you talking about attending the clinic and the packet you must complete ?  If so that is stil in place in High Point.  I "survived" the packet and I am ga that i did ... it is important to know all of that information.  There are a lot of WLS surgery doctors who don't educated their pateints and that is when there are BIG health probelms.  because of the the dreaded packet I TRUELY know how to take care of myself.  Do i think that the MGB is better than other WLS ... absolutlely .... compare the complications form one to the other .... MGB is musch safer with many many many less complications.  speaking of complications, the reason why you have to stay with in a 2 hour drive post op for 7 days is ... if something BIG like a leak is going to rear its ugly head it is going to do it in a week.  At HPRH where Dr Walsh and Dr Dasher do surgery they have had 1 leak in over 500 pateints and 1 death (due to pnenomia). i will be 1 year post op next week and I have lost 106 pounds, am in perfect health. Good Luck. shelly 268 / 162 size 24 to size 12  
Shelly
3-21-06
MGB (Mini Gastric Bypass)
Dr Walsh
High Point Regional Hospital
High Point NC
www.regionalbariatics.com
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