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Topic: RE: mgb after vgs
Not sure about that. You should go to www.clos.net and email one of the staff members about that.
Good luck!
Van
Topic: mgb after vgs
I would like to know, if it is possible to have a mini gastric bypass done, if you do not reach the amount of weight you need to loose after a reasonable time with the vertical gastric sleeve?.
Awaiting your soonest comments
Regards Pedrof.
Topic: RE: Calling all MGB people, please check in.
Hi, my name is Marianne and I am going on Wed. to see Dr. R. in LV. I am going with my husband to see him and ask some questions. I like about 8 hours a way.. so I am very serious about having this done; however, I am terrified. Could you email me some links that you researched in coming to the decision to have the MGB? My email is: [email protected] I am so overwhelemed by all of the options, especially between the MGB and the RNY. Thanks, Marianne
Topic: RE: MGB complications/regrets?
I did a LOT of research on this before my MGB and although it is not a CLOS guideline I would suggest anyone consider this when considering their Bypass.
I think the question of how much to bypass depends on the kind of obese person you are and how much you weigh. If you were obese in childhood and weigh over 350 for a woman and 400 for a man I would get teh 7ft bypass (GROUP1). If you are at least 100lbs overweight and less than 350/440 then I would suggest a 6ft bypass(GROUP2). If you are less than 100lbs overweight I would seriously question whether WL surgery is the right solution for you, UNLESS you have comorbidities such as High Blood Pressure, Sleep Apnea, Cardiac, Diabetes etc. In which case a 5ft bypass would be my suggestion ((GROUP3)..
I am not a medic but I did a huge amount of analysis on this before my MGB, I spoke to 80 to 90 MGB patients, those in Group1 who had less than 7ft lost a lot of weight but not quite enough, they were very happy but would liked to have lost more. If you look at the how the weight is gained for group2 you find it goes up and down a lot through their lives. I met some of these at a recent reunion and some looked as if they had never been obese, they looked healthy though. For group3 I have concerns about whether WL is really for you, I think you will lose too much because you are not that overweight compared to someone who has 200lbs to lose.
Ultimately it is a tool, if you do not use it properly (particularly in the 1st 2 years) you will impact the final result.
Topic: RE: CLOS not winning my vote of confidence
Not so weird really, you are NOT a post op patient.
They have several boards east and west, pre-op and post-op, you should not be surprised if you get kicked off a group for post ops. That board is for Post Op's that do not want the same old questions again and again, while the pre-op are happy to receive any queries.
The forum is moderated by a very busy lady who had the MGB many years ago, she also schedules all the patients, checks the packets and does 100 other things. So forgive her if she does not prioritise yahoo messages over her other tasks.
Topic: RE: Why does MGB have a bad reputation?
It is not the surgery that is the same as the billroth II but the connection, this type of connection was pioneered in the 1800's and is routinely used in about 16,000 non bariatric surgeries in the US per annum for things like Cancer and Gun Shot wounds.
The surgery is less invasive, less cutting leaves the original stomach intact and connects to the side of the small bowel rather than splcing it as they do in the RnY. This is important as it makes it much easier to reverse an MGB (35 minutes) than a RnY ( 3 hours).
The patient consent form of the MGB says that you agree to reverse the surgery if there is excessive weight loss, that is a responsible position. I have seen two newspaper articles of RnY where patients have died of starvation. I saw a RnY patient at a recent meeting and she looked really too thin and quite ill.
The other thing they do in the MGB is some very discreet work on teh vagus nerve terminal fibres, this is much more subtle than a vagotomy (complete cut of Vagus nerve) and leads to the reduction of Ghrelin which is a hormone related to hunger.
So there are 3 WL factors in the MGB, reduced hunger, reduced capacity and reduced absorbsion. Of course there are side effects as in all WL surgery but they want you about them and you confirm your understanding with a 17 pages consent form where you have to answer questions about the impact. (you do this for the packet as well).
So why are people bad mouthing the MGB, well Doctors are full of ego and often knock each other and it might have something to do with the fact that alternative surgery costs more!
Topic: RE: How long have you had your MGB?
Dr R at CLOS regularly publishes figures on his board and updates the patient manual whenever there is new data or new milestones.
I found them to be very honest about difficult questions, the guy gives his email and cell phone as does Dr P in Florida.
One of the honest things DrR says in his You tube videos is that there is no perfect procedure and the fact that surgeons argue about procedures shows that the vesy best procedure may not have been designed yet.
On August 11, 2007 at 8:50 PM Pacific Time, PeloRojo wrote:
Question about that link about MGB revisions...how do we know how many total MGBers are out there vs. how many needed revisions? If there are 3000 patients, and 30 had trouble (obviously rounding here) that's 1% -- and I wouldn't call that "a lot" of people. How many RNY patients need a revision? Just trying to get a balanced look at both. I don't have either surgery, but I want to be informed! Topic: RE: How long have you had your MGB?
Not going to get "mad" but if you have no data to backup your proposition you just sound ignorant.
Why not tell us more about the VSG, how many years it has been performed and all the imperical data?