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Topic: Healthy cross addititions
Hello:
I was wondering if anyone has attempted and or succeeded in channeling their addictions into something safe. Years ago I had a friend who was an alcoholic. He attended AA and eventually he channeled his compulsions into gardening. He knew that he was excessive about his yard and lawn but it was safe and he had the most fabulous garden and he stayed sober.
I'd like to be able to do that. After wls I became an alcoholic. I'm attending AA. I worry about just ending up with another addiction. So if I have to be addicted to something I'd rather it be a safe something instead of shopping or something else equally destructive.
Any ideas out there?
Thanks,
Pat
I was wondering if anyone has attempted and or succeeded in channeling their addictions into something safe. Years ago I had a friend who was an alcoholic. He attended AA and eventually he channeled his compulsions into gardening. He knew that he was excessive about his yard and lawn but it was safe and he had the most fabulous garden and he stayed sober.
I'd like to be able to do that. After wls I became an alcoholic. I'm attending AA. I worry about just ending up with another addiction. So if I have to be addicted to something I'd rather it be a safe something instead of shopping or something else equally destructive.
Any ideas out there?
Thanks,
Pat
Topic: RE: How do you know when drinking is a problem?
Dear Amanda:
It's only a quick step from drinking daily, which becomes a habit, to becoming a full blown alcoholic. I have a friend *****cognized this in time and got rid of all the alcohol in her house and stopped drinking altogether. I truly believe that she saved herself. She too had wls.
I wish I had recognized the problem in time because now I am an alcoholic. Hopefully a recovering one. I'm attending AA daily which really helps. But I resent the changes in my life. I am angry about having wls and becoming an alcoholic at the age of 61. I resent having to go to aa meetings instead of just living a normal life. If it is possible for you then just avoid alcohol; you will be so much better off. Alcoholism is 10,000 times worse than obesity.
To answer your question - "what has to happen for this to be considered a problem" Alcohol is bad for your health in many ways - besides it's addictive qualities. Having a few shots of Jager every night is already a problem. If you can stop it now you won't have to fight the obsession to drink, you won't have to go to aa and you won't become an alcoholic.
I wish you all the best.
Pat
It's only a quick step from drinking daily, which becomes a habit, to becoming a full blown alcoholic. I have a friend *****cognized this in time and got rid of all the alcohol in her house and stopped drinking altogether. I truly believe that she saved herself. She too had wls.
I wish I had recognized the problem in time because now I am an alcoholic. Hopefully a recovering one. I'm attending AA daily which really helps. But I resent the changes in my life. I am angry about having wls and becoming an alcoholic at the age of 61. I resent having to go to aa meetings instead of just living a normal life. If it is possible for you then just avoid alcohol; you will be so much better off. Alcoholism is 10,000 times worse than obesity.
To answer your question - "what has to happen for this to be considered a problem" Alcohol is bad for your health in many ways - besides it's addictive qualities. Having a few shots of Jager every night is already a problem. If you can stop it now you won't have to fight the obsession to drink, you won't have to go to aa and you won't become an alcoholic.
I wish you all the best.
Pat
Topic: RE: Support for those w/Alcoholism after surgery
Dear Friends:
After I posted my origiinal message I couldn't find my way back to this forum. This morning I received an email with a response and link to it. What a surprise to discover alll your responses.
Thank you for your support and ideas. I don't kow what else to say.
Pat
After I posted my origiinal message I couldn't find my way back to this forum. This morning I received an email with a response and link to it. What a surprise to discover alll your responses.
Thank you for your support and ideas. I don't kow what else to say.
Pat
Topic: RE: Support for those w/Alcoholism after surgery
Hi There. I am only one year out, but have found myself transfering addictions. Once I took that first drink, I was hooked. I can get high so fast! And the hangover wasn't as bad as it was pre-op. Not a good thing! This is starting to affect my family and those I love most.
I guess I'm just asking for some support from other's like myself. There are a few people I've been talking to on OH , but it's always nice to know you are not alone. Please contact me if you would like to talk....I know I would.
Peace,
Nola
I guess I'm just asking for some support from other's like myself. There are a few people I've been talking to on OH , but it's always nice to know you are not alone. Please contact me if you would like to talk....I know I would.
Peace,
Nola
Topic: RE: How do you know when drinking is a problem?
"I do think it is in place of food though, cause if I don't get it I munch on things I shouldn't. What has to happen for this to be considered a problem?"
Amanda, you answered your own question. You are substituting. It's like a meth addict getting clean, but then only drinking alcohol. Therefore, they are not truly "clean".
You are substituting. You need to find a coping mechanism or strategy instead of munching or drinking on a nightly basis if that concerns you. Obviously the thought has crossed your mind.
I would suggest talking to someone in your area, either WLS support group, therapist or addictions counselor. There will be something else you can do that will not be detrimental to your heatlh, interfere with your daily functioning, cause worry and possibly guilt.
Best of luck to you hon..it's tough, but you can do it.
Kathy
Amanda, you answered your own question. You are substituting. It's like a meth addict getting clean, but then only drinking alcohol. Therefore, they are not truly "clean".
You are substituting. You need to find a coping mechanism or strategy instead of munching or drinking on a nightly basis if that concerns you. Obviously the thought has crossed your mind.
I would suggest talking to someone in your area, either WLS support group, therapist or addictions counselor. There will be something else you can do that will not be detrimental to your heatlh, interfere with your daily functioning, cause worry and possibly guilt.
Best of luck to you hon..it's tough, but you can do it.
Kathy
Every morning in Africa
It knows it must outrun the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning inAfrica
It knows that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve.
It doesn't matter whether you're a lion or a gazelle
when the sun comes up you'd better be running.
RNY 2/9/09 Buh bye Gallbladder 8/28/09; 100% EWL (181 lbs.) on 2/19/10;
It knows it must outrun the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning in
It knows that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve.
It doesn't matter whether you're a lion or a gazelle
when the sun comes up you'd better be running.
RNY 2/9/09 Buh bye Gallbladder 8/28/09; 100% EWL (181 lbs.) on 2/19/10;
Topic: RE: Post op depression
Kitty,
Are you taking any meds. for depression? I was before my surgery, but after like you I noticed it was like they wern't working. So my doctor switched me to a different on. Just a suggestion, but I did go through the same thing and I still have my depression and anxiety.
Hugs,
Topic: RE: ~SPIRITUAL~ A DAY AT A TIME
Rhonda,
I don't know if anyone thanks you for these posts but I wanted to Thank You.
I love your posts, it makes me realize that I myself need to be making more quiet time with God.
God Bless you,
Mitzi
I don't know if anyone thanks you for these posts but I wanted to Thank You.
I love your posts, it makes me realize that I myself need to be making more quiet time with God.
God Bless you,
Mitzi
Topic: RE: Wondering.....
I'm right there with you girl ont he cross addictions... Mine is shopping and main meds....
I'm trying to find a psy. that deals with addiciton in my area... My debt. is syk high due to my shopping...
I am going to a 12 step mtg. but I know I will need to see a psy monthly to help with this.
God Bless
I'm trying to find a psy. that deals with addiciton in my area... My debt. is syk high due to my shopping...
I am going to a 12 step mtg. but I know I will need to see a psy monthly to help with this.
God Bless
Topic: RE: Bi Polar more intensive since WLS?
Yes, I notice a change in mine for sure. Plus yes that all runs in with my pain med. addiction... I'm trying to deal with my triggers so that I won't run out shopping, looking for a fix, etc....
God Bless...
God Bless...
Topic: RE: Support for those w/Alcoholism after surgery
Pat,
Hi, your exactly right, I did the same thing. Mine wasnt' with alcohol but was with pain medication. It started out as nothing but soon I realized that I could get more done and not eat as much if I kept taking this.
Well that has gotten me into a lot of trouble. I do think my whole personality has changed. I had my Gastric in 11/03 and I feel like I'm more depressed/anxiety etc.
My husband said he would take back my 280 body to have the same person back. Its sad.. But I'm in a 12 step program and taking Suboxone, its helping. I'm checkign on psy. to see for the depression and I'm getting back to eating right.
Hugs,
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