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Patricia R.
on 4/14/09 4:47 pm - Perry, MI
Topic: Been Away, Checking In
Hi Everyone,
I have been in Michigan with my granddaughter, daughter, and son-in-law and enjoying myself a great deal.  While away, I hurt my foot, and by the time I got home, it was in excruciating pain.  I went to the ER on Sunday, and the doc there said it was broken.  The orthopedist I saw on Monday says it is a badly bruised tendon.  I just know, it hurt big time.

I am still in outpatient IOP, and should be finishing up this week, and next week, hopefully, just going to group once a week.  I love my group, and my therapist, as we have a great deal of fun laughing and just getting honest with each other. 

I had the chance to see both my sons over the weekend, which was a terrific blessing.  We had a great time at dinner on Saturday night, and then visiting my sis-in-law with my mom and sister on Sunday for Easter dinner. 

I still attend AA meetings and I am working on a 4th step with my sponsor. 

Hope everyone is doing well.

Huggles,
Trish

Seek always to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to seek in his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some time to your fellow man. For remember, you don't live in a world all your own. Your brothers are here too.
Albert Schweitzer
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Patricia R.
on 4/14/09 1:54 pm - Perry, MI
Topic: RE: At a bad place
I can relate to your story.  I was already alcoholic when I had my surgery, but had been in AA for a long time, with over 5 years of sobriety at the time.  I relapsed when I had 6 years, and have been struggling ever since.

AA is a great resource.  Get involved, and get a sponsor.  I am currently in outpatient rehab, and love it.  I have the best therapist and therapy group around.  It is helping learn so much about myself.

There is a lack of information made available to pre-op patients, and that is where we veterans have a responsibility to educate the pre- and post-ops of the dangers of alcohol for WLS patients.  It should not discourage anyone from having the surgery.  I just encourage people to seek mental health care for themselves, because the food is not the issue, our stinking thinking and our emotions are.

Feel free to check in here from time to time for encouragement.

Trish

Seek always to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to seek in his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some time to your fellow man. For remember, you don't live in a world all your own. Your brothers are here too.
Albert Schweitzer
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BeckyJeanJellyBean
on 4/14/09 2:01 am
Topic: RE: At a bad place
Thanks for all your concern.  I did go see my doc, I started AA, made an appointment to see a shrink, and found out I have heart disease, all in a week.  I've been sober for 11 days, tho!!!  The drinking has ruined my heart, I am scared to death.  I have to go for a nuclear stress test this Thursday cause there are changes in my already changed EKG.  I weighed in at 234 (post breakfast with clothes) which means I have gained 60 lbs since my lowest post-op weight.  Can I be anymore disgusted with myself???  But I am going to stay with the getting help thing, I will.  For my old age and my daughter.

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 4/13/09 9:14 pm - OH
Topic: RE: Anorexia after WLS?
I don't have any statistics (I remember seeing two widely differing percentages one upon a time but don't remember now what they were), but based on my conversations with  other counselors in my area and state who work with clients who have ED or have had WLS, it is fairly common.

The good news, though, is that for RNY patients, they already have the tool they need to combat the anorexia-type food-controlling behavior: the eating rules from immedately post-op.  Going back to those rules often provides people with a sifficient sense of control over what they eat, allows them to eat in a healthy way, AND to drop some weight if they have regained.

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

Kim P.
on 4/13/09 8:26 pm - Belding, MI
Topic: RE: Anorexia after WLS?
Hi Lora,

Thanks for your reply, it's been so long, I was surprised.

I wondered how many people went from one extreme to the next.  We all started out eating too much and then changed that behavior, but how many of us actually tackled the real issue that was making us eat so much to begin with?  I did tackle those issues, but they don't go away.  Now I find myself so desperately needing some sort of control in my life it has turned into the other extreme of not eating at all.  Do you often hear about RNY recipients battling with anorexia?  How common is it?

Thanks again,
Kim
RHONDA FROM KY
on 4/13/09 11:44 am - ALEXANDRIA, KY
Topic: ~SPIRITUAL NOT RELIGIOUS~ A DAY AT A TIME

04/13 REFLECTION FOR THE DAY
Any number of addicted people are bedeviled by the dire conviction that if they ever go near The Program -- whether by attending meetings or talking one-to-one with a member -- they'll be pressured to conform to some particular brand of faith or religion.  They don't realize that faith is never an imperative for membership in The Program; that freedom from addiction can be achieved with an easily acceptable minimum of it; and that our concepts of a Higher Power and God -- as we understand Him -- afford everyone a nearly unlimited choice of spiritual belief and action.  AM I RECEIVING STRENGTH BY SHARING WITH NEWCOMERS?

TODAY I PRAY
May I never frighten newcomers or keep away those who are considering coming to  The Program by "laying on them"  my particular, personal ideas about a Higher Power.  May each discover his or her own spiritual identity.  May all find within themselves a link with some great universal Being or Spirit whose power is greater than theirs individually.  May I grow, both in tolerance and in spirituality, every day.

TODAY I WILL REMEMBER
I will reach, not preach.

It is good to have an end to journey towards; but it is the journey that matters in the end.  ~Ursula K. LeGuin

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 4/13/09 7:47 am - OH
Topic: RE: Anorexia after WLS?
Anorexia-type eating behaviors after RNY are more common than you might think (I'm a mental heatlh counselor, BTW).  We have SO much invested in the surgery and in trying NOT to fail AGAIN and re-gain the weight, that it is easy to fall into food-control patterns. 

Please atry to go back to the basics of post-RNY eating -- protein first and foremost, with some veggies, fruit, and other GOOD carbs thrown in AFTER the protein... no drinking with meals... etc..  You will likely continue to lose the weight if you do this. I am concerned that if you continue on the road you are on, you will end up in trouble both in terms of mental health and physical health.  (Talking to a counselor who is familiar with WLS and eating disorders might also be helpful.)

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 4/13/09 7:40 am - OH
Topic: RE: anti depressants
There is no reason you cannot take anti-depressant post-op.  Just be aware that some of them are time-release/delayed-release (e.g., Cymbalta) and that can be a problem (although some poeple take even thsoe with no problems.

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

RHONDA FROM KY
on 4/12/09 12:35 am, edited 4/12/09 12:39 am - ALEXANDRIA, KY
Topic: ~SPIRITUAL NOT RELIGIOUS~ A DAY AT A TIME
APRIL 12 REFLECTION FOR THE DAY
If we attempt to understand rather than to be understood, we can more quickly assure a newcomer that we have no desire to convince anyone that there is only one way by which faith can be acquired.  All of us, whatever our race, creed, color or ethnic heritage are the children of a living Creator, with whom we may form a relationship upon simple and understandable terms--as soon as we are willing and honest enough to try.  Do I know the difference between sympathy and empathy?  Can I put myself in the newcomer's shoes?  

TODAY I PRAY
May I try to love all humanity as children of a living God.  May I respect the different ways through which they find and worship Him.  May I never be so rigid as to discount another's path to God or so insensitive that I use the fellowship of the group as a preaching ground to extol my religious beliefs as the only way.  I can only know what works for me.  

TODAY I WILL REMEMBER
We are all children of God.

It is good to have an end to journey towards; but it is the journey that matters in the end.  ~Ursula K. LeGuin

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