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Topic: New to this forum.. LONG
My cash pay surgery was under 10K in New Iberia, LA, USA PM me if you have quesitons about Dr Borland
Normal Weight Achievied July 17,2009
Surgery Weight 221 Size 18W
Current Weight 130-135 Size 4
Hi
I normaly hang out on the VSG forum but thought someone here might be able to give me some insight.
A little background. My DH is a manic depressive(I think that is the official diagnosis anyway it has been a while) and has been on medication for almot 8 years. His prosac was recently upped to 2 pills a day. Prozac has changed our life drastically for the better and saved our marriage. We go to councelling once a month for maintience now. He is so much better but there are some issues I feel he needs to resolve but he just blames it on his problem and says that it cant be helped. For one he is a complete couch potato, he can watch TV for 12 hours straight and it drives me NUTS. It seems that if he got up and moved he would feel bettter but there is allways an excuse. I get drepressed when I do it with him and I dont have issues like he does. Today we both have the same virus (stomach bug) but where I have halfway cleaned the house he is still in bed. Am I asking too much, I do know that being tired of sick makes depression worse, but is he just using those things as an excuse? Or is his med wrong still? he is so much better that I dont know what to think. I want him to be truely happy and for us to have a life together not just to coexist if you KWIM. I just need insight, he will not do much more than make excuses to me and because of that I dont know what to believe. Hope someone here can help.
I normaly hang out on the VSG forum but thought someone here might be able to give me some insight.
A little background. My DH is a manic depressive(I think that is the official diagnosis anyway it has been a while) and has been on medication for almot 8 years. His prosac was recently upped to 2 pills a day. Prozac has changed our life drastically for the better and saved our marriage. We go to councelling once a month for maintience now. He is so much better but there are some issues I feel he needs to resolve but he just blames it on his problem and says that it cant be helped. For one he is a complete couch potato, he can watch TV for 12 hours straight and it drives me NUTS. It seems that if he got up and moved he would feel bettter but there is allways an excuse. I get drepressed when I do it with him and I dont have issues like he does. Today we both have the same virus (stomach bug) but where I have halfway cleaned the house he is still in bed. Am I asking too much, I do know that being tired of sick makes depression worse, but is he just using those things as an excuse? Or is his med wrong still? he is so much better that I dont know what to think. I want him to be truely happy and for us to have a life together not just to coexist if you KWIM. I just need insight, he will not do much more than make excuses to me and because of that I dont know what to believe. Hope someone here can help.
My cash pay surgery was under 10K in New Iberia, LA, USA PM me if you have quesitons about Dr Borland Normal Weight Achievied July 17,2009Surgery Weight 221 Size 18WCurrent Weight 130-135 Size 4
Topic: Been Away, Checking In
Hi Everyone,
I have been in Michigan with my granddaughter, daughter, and son-in-law and enjoying myself a great deal. While away, I hurt my foot, and by the time I got home, it was in excruciating pain. I went to the ER on Sunday, and the doc there said it was broken. The orthopedist I saw on Monday says it is a badly bruised tendon. I just know, it hurt big time.
I am still in outpatient IOP, and should be finishing up this week, and next week, hopefully, just going to group once a week. I love my group, and my therapist, as we have a great deal of fun laughing and just getting honest with each other.
I had the chance to see both my sons over the weekend, which was a terrific blessing. We had a great time at dinner on Saturday night, and then visiting my sis-in-law with my mom and sister on Sunday for Easter dinner.
I still attend AA meetings and I am working on a 4th step with my sponsor.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Huggles,
Trish
I have been in Michigan with my granddaughter, daughter, and son-in-law and enjoying myself a great deal. While away, I hurt my foot, and by the time I got home, it was in excruciating pain. I went to the ER on Sunday, and the doc there said it was broken. The orthopedist I saw on Monday says it is a badly bruised tendon. I just know, it hurt big time.
I am still in outpatient IOP, and should be finishing up this week, and next week, hopefully, just going to group once a week. I love my group, and my therapist, as we have a great deal of fun laughing and just getting honest with each other.
I had the chance to see both my sons over the weekend, which was a terrific blessing. We had a great time at dinner on Saturday night, and then visiting my sis-in-law with my mom and sister on Sunday for Easter dinner.
I still attend AA meetings and I am working on a 4th step with my sponsor.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Huggles,
Trish
Seek always to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to seek in his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some time to your fellow man. For remember, you don't live in a world all your own. Your brothers are here too.
Albert Schweitzer
Albert Schweitzer
Topic: RE: At a bad place
I can relate to your story. I was already alcoholic when I had my surgery, but had been in AA for a long time, with over 5 years of sobriety at the time. I relapsed when I had 6 years, and have been struggling ever since.
AA is a great resource. Get involved, and get a sponsor. I am currently in outpatient rehab, and love it. I have the best therapist and therapy group around. It is helping learn so much about myself.
There is a lack of information made available to pre-op patients, and that is where we veterans have a responsibility to educate the pre- and post-ops of the dangers of alcohol for WLS patients. It should not discourage anyone from having the surgery. I just encourage people to seek mental health care for themselves, because the food is not the issue, our stinking thinking and our emotions are.
Feel free to check in here from time to time for encouragement.
Trish
AA is a great resource. Get involved, and get a sponsor. I am currently in outpatient rehab, and love it. I have the best therapist and therapy group around. It is helping learn so much about myself.
There is a lack of information made available to pre-op patients, and that is where we veterans have a responsibility to educate the pre- and post-ops of the dangers of alcohol for WLS patients. It should not discourage anyone from having the surgery. I just encourage people to seek mental health care for themselves, because the food is not the issue, our stinking thinking and our emotions are.
Feel free to check in here from time to time for encouragement.
Trish
Seek always to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to seek in his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some time to your fellow man. For remember, you don't live in a world all your own. Your brothers are here too.
Albert Schweitzer
Albert Schweitzer
Topic: RE: At a bad place
Thanks for all your concern. I did go see my doc, I started AA, made an appointment to see a shrink, and found out I have heart disease, all in a week. I've been sober for 11 days, tho!!! The drinking has ruined my heart, I am scared to death. I have to go for a nuclear stress test this Thursday cause there are changes in my already changed EKG. I weighed in at 234 (post breakfast with clothes) which means I have gained 60 lbs since my lowest post-op weight. Can I be anymore disgusted with myself??? But I am going to stay with the getting help thing, I will. For my old age and my daughter.
Topic: RE: Anorexia after WLS?
I don't have any statistics (I remember seeing two widely differing percentages one upon a time but don't remember now what they were), but based on my conversations with other counselors in my area and state who work with clients who have ED or have had WLS, it is fairly common.
The good news, though, is that for RNY patients, they already have the tool they need to combat the anorexia-type food-controlling behavior: the eating rules from immedately post-op. Going back to those rules often provides people with a sifficient sense of control over what they eat, allows them to eat in a healthy way, AND to drop some weight if they have regained.
Lora
The good news, though, is that for RNY patients, they already have the tool they need to combat the anorexia-type food-controlling behavior: the eating rules from immedately post-op. Going back to those rules often provides people with a sifficient sense of control over what they eat, allows them to eat in a healthy way, AND to drop some weight if they have regained.
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
Topic: RE: Anorexia after WLS?
Hi Lora,
Thanks for your reply, it's been so long, I was surprised.
I wondered how many people went from one extreme to the next. We all started out eating too much and then changed that behavior, but how many of us actually tackled the real issue that was making us eat so much to begin with? I did tackle those issues, but they don't go away. Now I find myself so desperately needing some sort of control in my life it has turned into the other extreme of not eating at all. Do you often hear about RNY recipients battling with anorexia? How common is it?
Thanks again,
Kim
Thanks for your reply, it's been so long, I was surprised.
I wondered how many people went from one extreme to the next. We all started out eating too much and then changed that behavior, but how many of us actually tackled the real issue that was making us eat so much to begin with? I did tackle those issues, but they don't go away. Now I find myself so desperately needing some sort of control in my life it has turned into the other extreme of not eating at all. Do you often hear about RNY recipients battling with anorexia? How common is it?
Thanks again,
Kim
Topic: ~SPIRITUAL NOT RELIGIOUS~ A DAY AT A TIME
04/13 REFLECTION FOR THE DAY
Any number of addicted people are bedeviled by the dire conviction that if they ever go near The Program -- whether by attending meetings or talking one-to-one with a member -- they'll be pressured to conform to some particular brand of faith or religion. They don't realize that faith is never an imperative for membership in The Program; that freedom from addiction can be achieved with an easily acceptable minimum of it; and that our concepts of a Higher Power and God -- as we understand Him -- afford everyone a nearly unlimited choice of spiritual belief and action. AM I RECEIVING STRENGTH BY SHARING WITH NEWCOMERS?
TODAY I PRAY
May I never frighten newcomers or keep away those who are considering coming to The Program by "laying on them" my particular, personal ideas about a Higher Power. May each discover his or her own spiritual identity. May all find within themselves a link with some great universal Being or Spirit whose power is greater than theirs individually. May I grow, both in tolerance and in spirituality, every day.
TODAY I WILL REMEMBER
I will reach, not preach.
It is good to have an end to journey towards; but it is the journey that matters in the end. ~Ursula K. LeGuin
Topic: RE: Anorexia after WLS?
Anorexia-type eating behaviors after RNY are more common than you might think (I'm a mental heatlh counselor, BTW). We have SO much invested in the surgery and in trying NOT to fail AGAIN and re-gain the weight, that it is easy to fall into food-control patterns.
Please atry to go back to the basics of post-RNY eating -- protein first and foremost, with some veggies, fruit, and other GOOD carbs thrown in AFTER the protein... no drinking with meals... etc.. You will likely continue to lose the weight if you do this. I am concerned that if you continue on the road you are on, you will end up in trouble both in terms of mental health and physical health. (Talking to a counselor who is familiar with WLS and eating disorders might also be helpful.)
Lora
Please atry to go back to the basics of post-RNY eating -- protein first and foremost, with some veggies, fruit, and other GOOD carbs thrown in AFTER the protein... no drinking with meals... etc.. You will likely continue to lose the weight if you do this. I am concerned that if you continue on the road you are on, you will end up in trouble both in terms of mental health and physical health. (Talking to a counselor who is familiar with WLS and eating disorders might also be helpful.)
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
Topic: RE: anti depressants
There is no reason you cannot take anti-depressant post-op. Just be aware that some of them are time-release/delayed-release (e.g., Cymbalta) and that can be a problem (although some poeple take even thsoe with no problems.
Lora
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
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