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Jackie
Multiplepetmom

on 4/19/09 10:17 am
Topic: RE: ate myself sick last night
Thanks, Emily, it's all good. I sure would like to learn how to not do it, however.

hugs back at ya!

Jackie

once upon a time I had a group to talk about Binge Eating Disorder, and later one about Clean Eating.

PM me if you are interested in either of these.

 size 8, life is great
 

Emily_Rose
on 4/18/09 10:56 pm - Fort Worth, TX
Topic: RE: ate myself sick last night
I am so sorry you are dealing with this.  I cant imagine what you are going through right now.   I hope you can find help so that you can deal with this disorder.  Dont try to go it alone. (((HUGGS)))
Jackie
Multiplepetmom

on 4/18/09 5:17 am
Topic: ate myself sick last night

today I am grateful I am no longer even mildly queasy (let alone dry heaving over the sink) and I am asking myself why - trying not to call myself names or feel ashamed of doing it.

why?
1. pushing the limits - let's see just how much I can eat. (was taken by surprise by the violent lactose intolerance I now apparently have)

2. it's Friday night - and my work week was stressful.

3. I get lonely on the weekends and here comes a weekend.

irrational thoughts behind these reasons

1. I want to eat AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE so I have to find out how much that is.

2. overeating helps somehow with stress

3. if I face my loneliness...well, I guess my head will explode or something.

what to do about it?

1. I have no idea. I've been eating as much as I can for too long.   any advice out there?

how do you eat as much as you need, rather as much as you are able? how do you start?
(note to self: don't go to any buffets for awhile)

2. plan some healthy way to deal with stress on Friday night or, better, daily so it doesn't build up. don't be keeping ice cream in the house anymore. plan ahead!

3. need more people in my life. need to realize loneliness is just a feeling and suppressing it isn't helpful.

once upon a time I had a group to talk about Binge Eating Disorder, and later one about Clean Eating.

PM me if you are interested in either of these.

 size 8, life is great
 

RHONDA FROM KY
on 4/18/09 12:09 am - ALEXANDRIA, KY
Topic: ~SPIRITUAL NOT RELIGIOUS~ A DAY AT A TIME

04/18 REFLECTIONS FOR THE DAY
We in The Program know full well the futility of trying to overcome our addictions by will-power alone.  At the same time, we do know that it takes great willingness to adopt The Program's Twelve Steps as a way of life that can restore us to sanity.  No matter how severe our addictions, we discover with relief that choices can still be made.  For example, we can choose to admit that we're personally powerless over chemical dependency; that dependence upon a Higher Power is a necessity, even if this be simply dependence upon our group in The Program.  HAVE I CHOSEN TO TRY FOR A LIFE OF HONESTY AND HUMILITY, OF SELFLESS SERVICE TO MY FELLOWS AND TO GOD AS I UNDERSTAND HIM?

TODAY I PRAY
God grant me the wisdom to know the difference between "will-power" (which has failed me before) and "willingness" to seek help for my dependency, through Him and through others who are also recovering.  May I know, that there are choices open to me as there are to my fellow-sufferers in the foggiest stages of addiction.  May I choose the kind of life God wants for me.

TODAY I WILL REMEMBER
Willingness, more than will-power, is the key to recovery.

SerenityPrayer.gif serenity prayer image by newbutterfly1983

It is good to have an end to journey towards; but it is the journey that matters in the end.  ~Ursula K. LeGuin

Emily_Rose
on 4/17/09 11:49 pm - Fort Worth, TX
Topic: RE: Celexa Withdrawl and update on me
Would Zophram help with the nausa?  I was not getting off anything with my PG but I was so sick all day the Dr put me on the ODT tablets 3x a day and it helped.  If you are not familiar with them they are given to chemo patients to help with nausea so they work well.   However you will need insurance because they are pretty expensive, unless they have a generic now
Patricia R.
on 4/17/09 10:27 pm - Perry, MI
Topic: RE: eating disorders
Hi there,
I went to two different facilities for outpatient treatment for my eating disorder.  Both facilities treated anorexia, bulimia and binge eating disorder.  The better one was in 2005.  I went three times a week, from 4:00 to 8:00 p.m.  We had a variety of group therapies, individual therapy, family therapy, and a weekly session with the psychiatrist.  We also ate supper there, so that we could learn to eat comfortably in proper portions.  The groups were helpful because the only difference between binge eaters and anorexics is the amount of food.  The feelings and emotions are the same.

I first entered individual psychotherapy for my eating disorder, back in 1989.  Both treatment and therapy taught me coping skills to deal with my negative emotions.  Some of the coping skills I have used include deep breathing exercises, visualization/relaxation, journaling, soothing music, prayer and meditation. 

If you do not have insurance, you may want to consider attending Overeaters Anonymous meetings.  They are a 12 Step program, patterned after Alcoholics Anonymous, and there you can gain a lot of insight into the three fold problem of eating disorders:  physical, mental and spiritual.  Given what I know about some of the attitudes that some there can have, if you were to attend, you may not want to mention the WLS early on.  You can learn more about OA at their website, https://www.oa.org/

Feel free to ask as many questions as you like.  I have not achieved my WLS goal weight because my eating disorder came back with a vengeance after I relapsed on the alcohol. 

Hugs,
Trish

Seek always to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to seek in his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some time to your fellow man. For remember, you don't live in a world all your own. Your brothers are here too.
Albert Schweitzer
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Jackie
Multiplepetmom

on 4/17/09 10:03 pm
Topic: RE: eating disorders

Hi Trish

thanks for replying.

can you tell me what your treatment for was binge eating was like? I mean, what actually happens?  I went to a therapist for it but it wasn't helpful. I don't have insurance so being private pay may mean I didn't give it enough time but it felt like I was paying for nothing.

what is supposed to happen in therapy? what works?

if there is a group in my small town I would guess it isn't specifically for BED. do you think being in a group with people who have a different ED is useful? like if it was me and a room full of anorexics?

Jackie

once upon a time I had a group to talk about Binge Eating Disorder, and later one about Clean Eating.

PM me if you are interested in either of these.

 size 8, life is great
 

Kathy P.
on 4/17/09 5:06 pm - Port Orchard, WA
Topic: RE: New to this forum.. LONG
You are very welcome Emily.  Oh, and a P.S. regarding the sex drive...almost all SSRI'S, which Prozac is definately one, have the side effect of decreased or extinguished libido. An exception, based on clinical studies and trials, is Welbutrin. (Bet those were fun studies to conduct!)

Best of luck to you...and remember You Need To Take Care of You Too!

Hugs,
Kathy
Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up.
It knows it must outrun the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning in
Africa, a lion wakes up.
It knows that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve.
It doesn't matter whether you're a lion or a gazelle
when the sun comes up you'd better be running.

RNY 2/9/09  Buh bye Gallbladder 8/28/09; 100% EWL (181 lbs.) on 2/19/10;
Patricia R.
on 4/17/09 4:28 pm - Perry, MI
Topic: RE: Celexa Withdrawl and update on me
I have never used Celexa, but do understand the difficulties you may be having with decreasing it.  I hope you are doing so under medical supervision.  If not, see the prescribing doctor for help in weaning off of it.

Congratulations on your anticipated newborn.

Hugs,
Trish

Seek always to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to seek in his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some time to your fellow man. For remember, you don't live in a world all your own. Your brothers are here too.
Albert Schweitzer
96179

Patricia R.
on 4/17/09 4:26 pm - Perry, MI
Topic: RE: eating disorders
many years ago, prior to my surgery, I sought outpatient treatment for my binge eating disorder.  I actually went through two periods of treatment, and was successful in losing weight, but had trouble after treatment because I missed the support of the therapists and group members.

Now that I am post-op, I find myself giving in more, probably due to my relapse with alcohol.  I am currently in outpatient treatment for that. 

It is interesting that you mention a lack of interest in discussing it with surgery patients.  I have observed that as well.  When I participated in OA, many years ago, there was an anti-surgery school of thought.  Now that I am post-op, there appears to be, in many patients, a denial of an eating disorder. 

I am so grateful for my therapy, treatment and participation in OA prior to my surgery.

Feel free to PM me if you desire.

Trish

Seek always to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to seek in his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some time to your fellow man. For remember, you don't live in a world all your own. Your brothers are here too.
Albert Schweitzer
96179

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