Thoughts on breaking a stall...

cabin111
on 1/16/12 3:58 am
I know most of you have read the DX post I've put on here concerning stalls.  I don't want to over do it...You can look at my latests post to see it from awhile back if you'd like to.
I just want to share 4 things I have done and seen over the years that will break a stall.  For some reason you body (liver) holds on to the glycogen and will release it when it's good and ready!!...While you stay pissed at your body (since you've been doing the right things).
Anyways here they are in no special order...
1.  Hard physical work  For some reason (and I don't know why) this is the one thing that will cause the weight to drop.  With exercise it will drop slowly...but doing projects around the house (using muscles I haven't used in a long time) would cause the greatest weightloss!!  I kid you not.  Things like; cleaning the car out, cleaning gutters, pruning, washing windows...Would break the stalls and cause a quick drop in the weight.  
2.  Hard physical exercise  This one again will cause a great weightloss...But it can be physically draining since you are burning fat (and muscle) for energy...During rapid weightloss.  Light exercise wouldn't do it...Your body has adapted to the exercise over the course of a few weeks and the body will tend to hold onto the weight.
3.   Adding a little more protein  Just 1 extra protein shake can cause the release of the weight.  Maybe a small shake (whey protein isolate) in milk will do the trick.
4.  Stop the carbs!!  I mean it guys, reduce them big time!!  They stop the weightloss in it's tracks.  Get your carbs from good fruits and vegetables and not from the refined crackers and candy and see what happens.  I'm not saying to never go back to them...Just saying to be successful during this golden opportunity...Use carbs wisely.  After I hit goal I started grazing on carbs...and wondered why the weight started to come back??  DUH!!  DUH!!  Remember that when you use carbs, the body will burn those first and save the weight from the fat cells for later...So watch your carbs closely.
Thoughts??  Not preaching to anyone...Just trying to make you all aware.
Davo
on 1/16/12 4:53 am - WI
RNY on 03/12/12 with
 Well when I was in shape much of your thoughts on work or working out ring true.  I dont recall the technical names but muscle memory comes to mind.  If you always walk for fitness  try swimming, or climbing stairs.  Chop firewood, or ride your bike.  In order to keep the same exercise working you will have to do it much longer or much harder to achieve similar results or change your routine for a few days at time.  Snow shoe, (helps to have snow), lunges, squats, aerobics, anything that employs different muscles and shocks the body.  I had a certified trainer tell me her favorite work out energy booster was milk not all these sports drinks just milk (she said milk protein whey was fine if it did not contain sugars) and to really minimize unneccessary sugars.  Hard physical work usually employs large groups of muscles that are often not taxed during a walk or run.  My anatomy teacher equated them to rusty bolts on otherwise nice car.  They wouild take etra lubrication and muscle to get in top form thereby burning more calories to training them and teaching the body to move differently.  Yoga is supposed to do this as well.
cabin111
on 1/16/12 5:28 am, edited 1/15/12 5:30 pm
You have some good energy burners there. Concerning protein shakes...For those who have had the RNY and the DS (lesser extent VSG and Lap Band) there is so much malabsorption occuring the first few months, you will need the extra protein to try and prevent muscle loss. Again 1 week I lost 10 pounds...and with my pouch the size of a walnut, I felt I needed the extra protein. Whey protein isolate has a super level of protein per oz...and it is easy to digest and is available through the whole digestive system...Especially if it's combined with milk protein isolate and egg albumin. Later on, I feel the patient needs to wean themselves from the stuff...Go with protein from solid foods (less slider foods...slide straight into your intestines). Yet, it is good to keep using some whey protein for; keeping the muscle mass, weightloss, and for building new muscle if you are exercising alot. Just my thoughts.
docd
on 1/16/12 10:49 pm, edited 1/18/12 3:37 am - AZ
Thanks for the info. I've had a stall for about 10 days and might just be seeing the scale drop again.
The muscle confusion theory is one of the main premises behind the PX90 series. I'm waiting to get down a bit more before doing that, but the theory of not letting your body get complacent is a good one.

Carbs are the key man. Get into ketosis and stay there. It's hard going in and out of ketosis. Not only does it stall weight loss, it messes with your head. People no longer want to be around you.

Another lesson that I'm learning is to quit being the scale's *****!
I have been getting up every day and weighing. Letting the number on the scale determine if I'm going to have a good day or not. That's just BS, man.

You told me the other day to measure instead of weigh. Well I don't have a tape measure and see where I could get all messed up with that too, but yesterday I was pissed that the one pair of dress pants that I have that fit me at this stage were in the wash when I was already 5 minutes late to leave. While I was cussing my wonderful wife (like I can't wash my on dang pants!) I put on the next size down pants that didn't fit just a couple of weeks ago. They FIT!.

Major league FART there!

Thanks for the info and the words of inspiration that you bring to the table   edit: BRIAN (man sometimes I'm such an idiot!).

Doc
"Future's so bright, I gotta wear shades!"
         
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Sam LifeNerd
on 1/17/12 9:41 pm
 Well timed post!!  Yesterday was a new low weight for me, 249.8, this morning was 251.4, argh!!!

But I have seen a "stall" from 12/30, where I finally hit 255, two and a half weeks or so later and I am within a few pounds of that!?

Yes, my measurements have gone down slightly, but still want to get moving again.

Looking back, I have let simple carbs come back in and mess me up here!!  That and I need to hit the actual GYM on a regular basis.  I have been doing a few more things around the house, but none of them are hard work.
         
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