Carb Question

atl252006
on 10/17/11 3:42 pm - Chicago, IL
Good morning

I was wondering at what point after RNY surgery did you guys start back implementing carbs back into your diet.  I brought the book "Weightloss Surgery for Dummies" along with the cookbook, and I never really got a solid answer on that with carbs.  I'm in a stall, a longgggg one, I've been avoiding breads, pastas, and such completely but was told today that wasn't good at all to do and I needed to start implementing them into my diet.  Any ideas/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Ryan
    
Paul C.
on 10/18/11 5:02 am - Cumming, GA
I still avoid bread, pasta or rice even whole grain as much as I can, unless it is on a hard workout day, and even then it is the minimum and I was told to do simple carbs to help with glycogen.  My main source of carbs are fruits and veggies.

Veggies avg about 1/4 with lunch and dinner and veggies is a cup of berries or half a banana a day.  Again on vigorous training days this will increase.

The morning of my Half Marathon I had 3 bananas in my protein shake and then 1 when I finished the race, but when you burn 3,000 calories in 2.5 hours you get to treat yourself .

I would say go with what your are comfortable with.
Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op  (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03      
      First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (
PR 2:24:35)   
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
cabin111
on 10/18/11 6:57 am
At this point in your WLS journey you should be introducing complex carbs into your diet.  How close are you till goal...That has alot to do with it.  You should be looking into raw and cooked vegetables, small amounts of fruit (including berries and bananas), and very small amounts of whole grain crackers.  What you need to avoid  (and if you can, never go back to) is simple carbs.  You may need to Google simple carbs.  But things like bread, white rice, pasta, sugar, chips, high fructose corn syrup you should never go back to.  They are very addicting and will be calling you back for more!!  It is like an addict going back to their drug...Don't start down that road...From someone who has been there.  You look at those who have kept their weight off over the years (remember it's not just weightloss, but a life time lifestyle change) and they have really limited or never gone back to simple carbs.  This can be tought cause it's all around us; holidays, birthday, celebrations, work parties, Costco and Sam's Club free samples...You name it and it's there.  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!  Brian
cabin111
on 10/18/11 7:07 am
Just some more info...Again The simple carbs you should include in small amounts are things like dense fruits (oranges, berries, bananas).

When you eat (or drink) a simple carbohydrate or a simple sugar – whether it is a can of soda, a scoop of fat-free ice cream, or even a glass of orange juice – all of the ingested sugar quickly rushes into your bloodstream. You typically feel a quick rush of energy. Your body then promptly reacts to this sudden spike in blood sugar by calling on the pancreas to produce additional insulin to remove the excess sugar from your blood. And for the moment, you have significantly lower blood sugar as a result of the insulin doing its job, resulting in a sense or feeling of needing more fuel, more energy and more calories. And as you hit that residual low blood sugar, you begin to crave more of the quick-release, simple sugars, and hence you have just initiated the sugar craving cycle.

As this downward cycle continues, your pancreas continues to secrete insulin while it simultaneously reduces its production of another hormone called glucagon. Glucagon production, as it relates to improving your body composition, is very important if your fitness goal is to lose excess body fat. Glucagon is the only hormone that allows stored body fat to be released into the bloodstream to be burned by your muscles as energy. And when the pancreas has to elevate its production of insulin while reducing its supply of glucagon, you are basically locking-in your excess body fat. Therefore, too much simple sugar intake dramatically hinders the process of reducing stored body fat.

American’s consumption of sugar continues to rise year after year. So too, does obesity in our country. In my opinion, the correlation between increased sugar consumption and obesity is telling. When 16-20 percent of daily calorie intake is coming from sugar, Americans are not only locking in stored body fat, but also squeezing out the healthier, more supportive and nutrient-dense food choices. Sugar is the enemy of body fat reduction; and the enemy of a healthy, high energy lifestyle. So, do your best to begin to understand what’s in the food you are consuming and reduce those that contain more than a few grams of sugar.

When searching out the food choices that include simple carbs (i.e., sugars), start by looking for obvious ingredients on food labels that actually use the word “sugar", like brown sugar, sugar cane, and of course, just simple sugar.  Also, reduce your intake of foods that have any form of “syrup" in their ingredients.  For example, corn syrup, high-fructose corn syrup, maple syrup and glucose syrup.  And finally, look for those ingredients that end in “–ose", like sucrose, glucose, lactose and fructose.  All of these ingredients are sugars and, if ingested, will spike your blood sugar and initiate the pancreas to produce insulin and essentially shut off glucagon production – the fat release hormone.

If you find yourself in a situation where you are limited in your food choices (e.g., a breakfast or luncheon business meeting, traveling, dinner parties, etc.), and sugar seems to be the predominant choice, try to eat a protein with the sugar. Protein will help to slow down sugar’s release into the bloodstream, and reduce the insulin/glucagon effect.

Complex carbohydrates, on the other hand – and despite all the negative press they receive in some of the popular weight loss books – are actually your body’s preferred source of energy. When you consume the healthy complex carbs – the ones that have not been altered in a food laboratory – they are broken down into glucose molecules and used as fuel or stored in muscle and the liver as glycogen. When the body has an ample supply of glucose fuel and glycogen fuel storage, it can run efficiently. You will then have the energy to function at your best and provided the material that your body needs to reduce body fat and reach your health and fitness goals.

When you look for complex carbohydrate food choices to put into your body, seek out two subgroups of carbohydrates…starchy carbohydrates and fibrous carbohydrates.

Starchy carbohydrates include food choices such as brown rice, baked and sweet potatoes, oatmeal, brown pastas and whole grains.

Fibrous carbohydrates include asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower, onions, mushrooms, spinach and peppers and can also be found in most varieties of dark green leafy vegetables.

One more very important nugget of carbohydrate information to remember:  Do your best to seek out the complex carbohydrates that have not been processed in a food factory.

When shopping at the grocery store, stay away from the carbs that include the following words in their ingredients: bleached, enriched, processed or refined. These processed and altered foods are void of critical nutrient value and will do very little to fuel and energize your body.

Tim T.
on 10/18/11 9:33 am - Eastham, MA
awesome info....
      
Craig C.
on 10/18/11 10:36 pm - Fort Worth, TX
I second that! Thanks for some great information on a subject I am sure many of us have questions about! I know I do.

Craig
            
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