Three Obese Types?

NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 1/4/11 7:00 am - Japan
 Thinking guys, that there must be three types of obese folks:

1. Those that don't eat that excessively but still put on a lot of weight 

2. Those that eat a lot AND have slow metabolism and thus gain a lot of weight.

3. Those that have high metabolism, but still eat so much that they gain weight

Have I missed any?

Not sure if I'll be able to respond much to this one myself, but which category are you? 

RNY has worked extremely well for me I think because  I am a 3. I just ate so much regular food (not sweets) and sat on my butt so much that I gained a lot of weight. I eat less than half of what I used to eat, so I don't really gain weight unless I eat a lot of sweets. I  don't seem to gain or lose much weight at all regardless of my level of physical activity.

Thinking that your responses might provide insight to people considering surgery or who have already had surgery, but may be having difficulty losing.

Best Wishes,

Dave

 

sjbob
on 1/4/11 7:54 am - Willingboro, NJ
 I always thought that there are just two types and I've seen the differences on how the type that they are affects their recovery.  The first type are the people who simply overeat.  They gain weight due to a difference in calories in vs calories out.  That makes logical sense.  they may seem to like food more than the average person, but by following their post-op food pan and getting proper exercise, they are able to lose weight and keep it off.  The second type gains weight because of excess eating at meals and because of eating the wrong snack foods.  Like me, they may have been treated to Ice cream or some other treat on a regular basis.  We had a dessert consisting of  a slice o cake or pie, some brownies or squares, or some home-made cookies.  In other words, one type of morbidly obese person took a very long course in how to get fat and enjoy yourself while doing so.

I quickly became aware of this while reading hundreds of posts and profiles.  The people who are food addicts--especially those addicted to sugar, white flour, or highly processed foods have a secondary problem.  They have to deal with their food addiction.  Losing weight is never easy, but simply losing weight without having a food addiction is different.  Yes, I know we all like to eat and most of us like sweets.  But, the addicted person almost seems to have a '"relationship with the adicting substance.  It may be a love-hate relationship, but first one has to recognize that it is there and then you have to deal with it.  Elimiation of the problem may not be possible.  Addiction counelors even argue about this relentlessly.  Bob


Grandpa-G
on 1/4/11 9:19 am - Grandville, MI
 I'm thinking there may be a fourth...those who LOVE and/or are addicted to food, have yo-yo dieted all their lives, and have basically screwed up their metabolism and then regardless of what they do diet wise, cannot keep the weight off.

I think I fall into this category.  I love food!  I love to cook and try different things, tastes, cultural dishes, etc.  I am a "foodie".  I still enjoy watching the food network and cooking shows.  Now, as i watch, i think of ways i can substitute the sugar and/or fat, to make things that are 'healthy" but good.

As I have been on and off diets all of my adult life, and even some of my teen/adolescent years, I think my metabolism just got screwed up.  It seems that every time i 'regained' the weight, it was always more.  Hence, adult onset Type II Diabetes.  I was 53 when I had my RNY.  I think my body was just getting worn out metabolically.

I  think this is why RNY has been such a great "tool" and has worked so well for me.  Not only is there the malabsorbtion aspect, I now am limited on how much and to a certain degree, what I can eat.  I've made a choice to avoid processed sugar as I don't want to "dump".  That is a great motivator or behavior modifier.  The "pain" or discomfort if I do eat too much, or too fast, or don't chew enough, is also a motivator or behavior modifier.

Then there is the exercise aspect.  I really can't explain it, but I now 'love" to exercise.  I enjoy my running and my strength building.  On days when I do one and not the other, I really miss the one I am not doing and am eager to do it the next day.

Bottom-line, to be successful, we have to make life-style changes.  Eat better, healthier, and less, and exercise on a consistent, regular basis.  WLS is a great tool and from my perspective a Godsend!  It's not a cure-all and you won't be successful, unless you take on some personal accountability and responsibility.  BUT...It CAN be done!  I'm living proof of that!

YOU CAN DO IT...JUST DO IT!

Mike
Eating junk food and CRAP is not a reward...it's a punishment...
  it's a DEATH sentence...Reward yourself with Good Health!
Highest Weight: 287 Lbs-January 2010; Reached Goal 195 Lbs - Dec 2010 
Total Lost: 92 Lbs;  Completed FULL MARATHON (26.2 Miles) 10-16-2011
           
Beam me up Scottie
on 1/4/11 10:59 am
I think I was both 2 and 3 (at different stages of my life). Genetically I was predisposed to be obese, at the same time, i ate a lot of food. It's kind of like which came first the chicken or the egg? I was obese since I was 6 or 7, I know I was not gorging myself at that time. Later in life I did gorge myself.

Thankfully the DS helped me by initially limiting the amount of food I could eat, by allowing me to malabsorb some of the fatty foods, and by revving up my metabolism.

Scott
CoastalBigDog
on 1/4/11 12:50 pm, edited 1/4/11 12:50 pm - WA
This info is from:
http://www.healthandnutritiontips.net/types_of_obesity/types _of_obesity.html

The Different Types of Obesity
There are various types of obesity. One way to categorize obesity is based on how much a person is overweight. Another is to categorize obesity based on the probable cause for the obesity. Below is a look at both of those categories.

LEVELS

Obesity

While a person can be considered overweight just because they have a few extra pounds, to be considered obese, a person must weigh 20% more than their ideal body weight.

Your ideal body weight is calculated using a number of criteria so the best way to figure it is not to look at some chart. Instead, you should consult your doctor to learn your ideal body weight.

Morbid Obesity

Among the types of obesity, this is the one that poses the most health risks. To be considered morbidly obese, one must have a body mass index of 40 or more. Another more general calculation is that anyone who is 100 pounds or more over their ideal body weight is considered morbidly obese.

CAUSES

Hereditary

This is often debated when it appears on lists of types of obesity. The reason for the debate is that while obesity does sometimes run in families, it is not clear whether that is due to genetic reasons or due to the fact that all members of the family make poor eating choices.

What is known is that some people might be more predisposed to becoming obese, but they could curb that result by eating properly and exercising.

Lifestyle         

This includes food choices, exercise habits and anything else that would contribute to one becoming overweight and obese.

The good news about this is that if one begins to make proper choices, the extra weight can be lost. Of course, once a person has become obese, it can be more difficult to get motivated to try and lose the weight.

Unlike someone with just a few pounds to lose, someone who has 80, 90 or more pounds to lose can feel like it is too difficult a task and that ever reaching their goal would be impossible.

This can contribute to the next cause on the list. 

 Psychological

This is similar to heredity in that, while it can contribute to poor lifestyle choices, being depressed or suffering from another psychological condition will not, on its own, cause someone to gain weight.

That is not to discount the impact that such a condition can have on a person, but it is important to understand that these psychological factors contribute to weight gain, but they do not cause it.

All types of obesity pose serious health risks. No matter which level of obesity you may be at, it is vitally important to find ways to put a stop to it right now. Of course, it is not easy to lose weight, but doing so can mean that you will not face potentially life threatening health problems down the road.

Even those that already have weight related issues, such as high blood pressure, can turn those problems around by bringing their weight closer to their ideal.

The types of obesity are not as important as the steps that you can take to once again get control of your body and your health.


                            
nate2009
on 1/5/11 3:46 am - Lebanon, OH
I just ate anything and everything I could get in my mouth. I had no "full" button.
    No longer about weight , it's all about living.            
NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 1/5/11 6:03 am - Japan
 Great stuff guys,

I was thinking that everyone has a different resting metabolic rate. When I had mine tested I burned about 2000 calories a day just sitting still. Not sure how much variation there is from person-to-person, but I would imagine it must be 2-300 calories a day - enough on the low end to cause some folks who don't take in all that many calories to become obese.

Dave

Guessing that I either don't absorb a lot of calories now OR the more non-sugary food I eat, the less gets absorbed; kind of a built-in bulmia valve (?)

"Food overflow release valve," haha. That's what I have.

 

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