Greetings
Hey Guys,
Old timer here, 5 years exercising and 4 months shy of 5 years post RNY.
DxE used to keep us posted on all new RNY news and developments, but haven't heard from him in a while...just wondering if there's anything new on the RNY front? Last I heard, RNY was being considered a cure or near-cure for diabetes. Anything new since then.
Keeping the weight off and bloodwork is good. Seem to have developed a super immune system and super tolerance to exercise. Not sure why. Maybe the two are connected or maybe it's the new improved nutrition.
Best Wishes,
Dave
Old timer here, 5 years exercising and 4 months shy of 5 years post RNY.
DxE used to keep us posted on all new RNY news and developments, but haven't heard from him in a while...just wondering if there's anything new on the RNY front? Last I heard, RNY was being considered a cure or near-cure for diabetes. Anything new since then.
Keeping the weight off and bloodwork is good. Seem to have developed a super immune system and super tolerance to exercise. Not sure why. Maybe the two are connected or maybe it's the new improved nutrition.
Best Wishes,
Dave
I'm shouting in the locker room door without looking, honest!
Probably shouldn't break silence here but I'm a long-time lurker and glad to see you checking in. I haven't seen DX or any of the old crew except SJ Bob for many months. I'm reading more about Vitamin D helping with the immune system. I know I have fewer colds as well as all the piddly stuff like no more high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, and atrial fibrulation.
Okay, I'm out of here, back to lurk mode.
Probably shouldn't break silence here but I'm a long-time lurker and glad to see you checking in. I haven't seen DX or any of the old crew except SJ Bob for many months. I'm reading more about Vitamin D helping with the immune system. I know I have fewer colds as well as all the piddly stuff like no more high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, and atrial fibrulation.
Okay, I'm out of here, back to lurk mode.
Hey Dave...and you female lurkers...you know who you are...Welcome back!
I believe recent studies are showing a 98% "cure" rate for Type II Diabetes post RNY.
I know I am part of that 98%. My random checks show blood sugar generally around 80 - 85. My A1C has been under 5. According to my PCP, I have been down graded from a diagnosis of Type II Diabetic to a "pre-Diabetic". If my A1C remains below 5 at my next check after the 1st of the year, he removes the pre dx and "I am cured".
I have also read similar findings related to improved immune system related to both improved nutrition, supplements, and exercise.
This "new" healthy lifestyle definitely has some measurable benefits!
Don't be a stranger. We all appreciate the advice, knowledge, and support from you veterans.
Mike
I believe recent studies are showing a 98% "cure" rate for Type II Diabetes post RNY.
I know I am part of that 98%. My random checks show blood sugar generally around 80 - 85. My A1C has been under 5. According to my PCP, I have been down graded from a diagnosis of Type II Diabetic to a "pre-Diabetic". If my A1C remains below 5 at my next check after the 1st of the year, he removes the pre dx and "I am cured".
I have also read similar findings related to improved immune system related to both improved nutrition, supplements, and exercise.
This "new" healthy lifestyle definitely has some measurable benefits!
Don't be a stranger. We all appreciate the advice, knowledge, and support from you veterans.
Mike
Eating junk food and CRAP is not a reward...it's a punishment...
it's a DEATH sentence...Reward yourself with Good Health!
Highest Weight: 287 Lbs-January 2010; Reached Goal 195 Lbs - Dec 2010
Total Lost: 92 Lbs; Completed FULL MARATHON (26.2 Miles) 10-16-2011
it's a DEATH sentence...Reward yourself with Good Health!
Highest Weight: 287 Lbs-January 2010; Reached Goal 195 Lbs - Dec 2010
Total Lost: 92 Lbs; Completed FULL MARATHON (26.2 Miles) 10-16-2011
I don't have any news but I just wanted to say that I'm glad to see your post. Cabin111 occasionally re-posts some of DxE's past posts. The one that comes up most often is what DxE researched about dealing with stalls. DxE hasn't posted on OH in over a year.
There may be developments in WLS, but they are more likely to occur in Europe than here. The various Fed agencies want to cover their collective butts before allowing some procedures.
the biggest recent news is that many doctors are recommending that lap band surgery be used to treat obesity--not just morbid obesity. The estimation is that it would save a lot of monetary strain on the healthcare system. And, they cite that the danger is less than other WLS surgeries. I surely hope that patients be given the same sort of counseling that we receive before our surgeries. That should include dietary counseling as well as a psych eval. Continued success can not be expected without a commitment to change one's life. The early post-op period provides a chance to change eating habits.
There may be developments in WLS, but they are more likely to occur in Europe than here. The various Fed agencies want to cover their collective butts before allowing some procedures.
the biggest recent news is that many doctors are recommending that lap band surgery be used to treat obesity--not just morbid obesity. The estimation is that it would save a lot of monetary strain on the healthcare system. And, they cite that the danger is less than other WLS surgeries. I surely hope that patients be given the same sort of counseling that we receive before our surgeries. That should include dietary counseling as well as a psych eval. Continued success can not be expected without a commitment to change one's life. The early post-op period provides a chance to change eating habits.
Hey there...Good to hear from you again. Had some great times way back when. But we move on. I still use your reference of pureeing your chicken salad. The more I think of that one, the more it makes sense early in the WLS journey.
A few things that are new I have seen. More and more people are going with the VSG...Which can be converted to an RNY or DS later in their lifetime. It still is not as popular as the RNY but is gaining popularity. The other thing I have heard from my surgeon is that some people have come down with Beriberi...A lack of Vitamin B-1. My surgeon now recommends a B-complex each day. I will nibble on my B-Complex throughout the day...Gross, but it works for me.
There are new conflicting issues with the use of Vitamin D. WLS veterans are coming up short in this area...Yet a branch of the US government said too much D can be harmful and damage your kidneys. Hard to know the balance on that one. I try and eat the color of the rainbow in fruits and vegetables...I think you do too...Never knowing if we will come up short in some area. Take care. Brian
Not really a whole lot on the RNY front, although it looks like it's slowly being edged out by other surgeries. The VSG is becoming very popular...it's cheap, it requires little follow up, and I'm sure it's bound to be a big old failure like most restrictive only surgeries (give enough time)....but for now it's the trend. Another trend is that there are more surgeons doing the DS, but it's been modified since my surgery. The surgeon now includes getting a very small VSG, and a much longer common channel....i have a 75 cm common channel and the newbies are starting with 150 plus common channels.
As far as supplementation...it seems like there is a trend towards more D for everyone (not just WLS patients).
Scott
As far as supplementation...it seems like there is a trend towards more D for everyone (not just WLS patients).
Scott
Thanks, fellows!
Here's a rambling response as things come to mind:
Really good to see you all again. I have a hard time posting sometimes because I've now started mailing all of my old friends and relatives and can't find the energy to post more than a little bit here and there. On top of that, I've come to the realization that if we follow our common sense and don't stray too far from the program (after the initial big weight loss) that we will very likely maintain our original weight. So not really feeling the need to think about it as much.
Wow, the diabetes cure rate is impressive. While I never had sugar issues, my sugar did drop about 12-15 points to around 80 for three years running.
That's interesting too about the VSG. My surgeon does VSG's, but says that the staple line often breaks down after many years, whereas with the RNY, breakdown is rather rare. On the other hand, I have the feeling that a lot of RNY patients who don't take vitamins are going to suffer from peripheral neuropathy in old age.
Anyone else find it's near impossible to gain body fat? I think I would have to lay on my back all day eating bon-bons (do they still exist, lol?) and ice cream to get fat. It certainly seems that if I keep exercising, anyway, that my weight will remain stable.
I can almost see myself getting into the trap of eating bad food, because there is no penalty. I think my bloodwork (having genetically good ratios and levels of both types of cholesterol and triglycerides) would remain really good regardless of diet. But this is not something that I would like to try.
Occasionally, I'll binge on donuts or something. I'll have a tiny dump (maybe doze off or something) and because I've eaten a rather large quantity, malaborption will kick in. Large quanties of milk and flour in = large quantities of milk and flour out. I know, taking advantage of built in bulemia is probably not good.
But I still exercise A LOT. Weights, running, swimming, karate, yoga. Though now it's not as much for weight loss as for mobility and health into old age.
It really has changed since the days of Dx. We used to talk about so many details. How many calories, how much exercise, what kind of diet, even how to wash the dog in Betadine before having any kind of surgery, lol. I think nowadays people realize more that your body will take care of itself, at least to a certain extent. Problems usually only arise from long term abuse, physical/ mental exhaustion or some underlying health issue.
Anyway, hope you are all having happy holidays. Hope you newbies will stick to the program at least during the first two years while the losing is fast. That seems to be when it really counts.
Best Wishes,
Dave
Here's a rambling response as things come to mind:
Really good to see you all again. I have a hard time posting sometimes because I've now started mailing all of my old friends and relatives and can't find the energy to post more than a little bit here and there. On top of that, I've come to the realization that if we follow our common sense and don't stray too far from the program (after the initial big weight loss) that we will very likely maintain our original weight. So not really feeling the need to think about it as much.
Wow, the diabetes cure rate is impressive. While I never had sugar issues, my sugar did drop about 12-15 points to around 80 for three years running.
That's interesting too about the VSG. My surgeon does VSG's, but says that the staple line often breaks down after many years, whereas with the RNY, breakdown is rather rare. On the other hand, I have the feeling that a lot of RNY patients who don't take vitamins are going to suffer from peripheral neuropathy in old age.
Anyone else find it's near impossible to gain body fat? I think I would have to lay on my back all day eating bon-bons (do they still exist, lol?) and ice cream to get fat. It certainly seems that if I keep exercising, anyway, that my weight will remain stable.
I can almost see myself getting into the trap of eating bad food, because there is no penalty. I think my bloodwork (having genetically good ratios and levels of both types of cholesterol and triglycerides) would remain really good regardless of diet. But this is not something that I would like to try.
Occasionally, I'll binge on donuts or something. I'll have a tiny dump (maybe doze off or something) and because I've eaten a rather large quantity, malaborption will kick in. Large quanties of milk and flour in = large quantities of milk and flour out. I know, taking advantage of built in bulemia is probably not good.
But I still exercise A LOT. Weights, running, swimming, karate, yoga. Though now it's not as much for weight loss as for mobility and health into old age.
It really has changed since the days of Dx. We used to talk about so many details. How many calories, how much exercise, what kind of diet, even how to wash the dog in Betadine before having any kind of surgery, lol. I think nowadays people realize more that your body will take care of itself, at least to a certain extent. Problems usually only arise from long term abuse, physical/ mental exhaustion or some underlying health issue.
Anyway, hope you are all having happy holidays. Hope you newbies will stick to the program at least during the first two years while the losing is fast. That seems to be when it really counts.
Best Wishes,
Dave
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