still confused with NUT numbers.....

victor cardi
on 6/28/10 5:02 am
HI ALL! Gastric Bypass 11/2008 down almost 100lb**** the wall in OCT./Nov timeframe so last week i went to see my nut and she told me i need to eat more (I need to be eating almost 2000 calories!!She wants me to start out with MINIMUM 1200 calories and work my way up..see earlier post) 
   Does this sound right?............the  NUT gave me a meal plan/guide to help me......and the numbers seem a little off....I know its just a giude but should i up my carbs the way she has it written? I was trying to keep my carb count low like below 50 grams a day..... here is what she gave me.....

carbs 159  protien 72   fat 32    calories min 1200-1500 then work up to 2000.......... The carb amount is worrying me..do those numbers seem ok to everybody?? I thought i should be limiting carbs to 40 -50 grams a day........... thanks again everybody!!!!   

 May all your UP'S be in life; and your DOWNS be on the scale!!

VICTOR 

 
            

sjbob
on 6/28/10 10:15 am - Willingboro, NJ
Check on the carbs--they are probably the combined carbs from whole grains, fruit, and vegetables.  Protein should probably be higher.  If you need to get it higher, you may want to try protein shakes;  most shakes will yield about 120 cal and 20 g protein when mixed with water.  Adding any type of milk would obviously add calories.  I've found that I can lose weight while eating 1400-1600 cal per day.  Many men on maintenance do eat 2000 cal per day.  I think the problem you have had since Oct/Nov is that your body is acting as if it is being starved.  The recommendation for 800 to 1200 cal per day is for women.  Men do need a bit more in protein and total cals.
nate2009
on 6/29/10 1:21 am - Lebanon, OH
I agree with getting up to 2000 cals. The amount of carbs,protein,fat should be adjusted to what works best for you. If you are active or work out a lot you need the carbs more than a seditary person. I get at least 2000 cals a day 250g of protein 150g of carbs and 40-50g of fat. If you do the math that is 50% protein 30%fat and 20% carb and I feel pretty good at this level. I am trying to put some muscle on so most days are a little higher than above when I do heavier weights. Also if you use most of your carbs for pre/post workouts you will use them more for muscle function in your workouts and muscle repair and lessen any chance of storing them for fat.
    No longer about weight , it's all about living.            
Blazade
on 6/29/10 3:12 am - Onalaska, WI
Your body needs the right amount of carbs to burn fat correctly, without it your body uses other resources.

Robert

victor cardi
on 6/29/10 4:14 am
Thanks for the info..how do you guys eat so many calories? Do you eat lots of little meals or how do you get the bulk of your carbs/protiens in? what is your daily menu like?? I too am lifting weights....thanks 

 May all your UP'S be in life; and your DOWNS be on the scale!!

VICTOR 

 
            

Blazade
on 6/29/10 5:46 am - Onalaska, WI

My usual daily menu:

Breakfast - 3/4 cup Kashi go lean with whole milk.
lunch   -   3 oz of ham and 1 oz cheese with margerine on 2 slices of whole grain bread and 3/4 cup of whole milk.
Dinner   --  4 oz meat, 3/4 cup veggie, 1/2 cup cooked rice or potatoes
I snack on 2 oz of hersheys special dark chocolate from the freezer throughout the day
evening snack  -  1 cup of cheese crackers or 3oz of crab meat with seafood sauce
before bed - 3oz of ham 1 oz cheese, 1 slice of whole grain bread and 1/2 cup whole milk.

The milk is the key to my getting in all my good carbs.  My nut suggested it at 4 years post and I have been feeling better since I upped my milk consumption.  The whole milk adds some fat which my diet was lacking.

Robert

nate2009
on 6/29/10 6:59 am - Lebanon, OH
Protein shakes - Isopure with carbs (complex carbs) with a couple packs of diet hot choc mix for flavor and 8oz of almond milk (unsweetened) adds up to 400 cals 30 carbs 4g sugar and 5g fat with 50g of protein. That's an easy way to up the total for the day without stuffing yourself. I will usually do 1 pre and 1 post my strength training. I also eat 2 servings of cherios dry after the shake to get some carbs back in quick to reload the muscles.
This gets me 1000 cals, 100g of protein, 10g of fat, 100g of carb just in a few hours mid day around my lifting. I then have the rest of the day to burn off the extra carbs that I dont use.

I also use pure protein bars that are 200 cals and 20g of protein. I know the sugar is only 2g but I am not sure the total carb count on them. They also have quite a bit of fat.

These are just easy ways to up the cals without stuffing yourself. It's also easier to do it this way so on your off days when you don't need as much fuel your not in a habit of stuffing yourself.
    No longer about weight , it's all about living.            
(deactivated member)
on 6/29/10 4:13 pm
 
Wow, being only 6 weeks, I felt like I pigged out yesterday and hit about 750 cals, about 60% protein, 20% fat, 20% complex carbs.  Pushing about 80-100g of protein.  Just the thought of eating 6-8oz in a meal makes me queasy.  

I'm starting to work out last week doing about 1.5 hrs a day.  ~30 min or so on an elliptical and about 45min of swimming.  Mostly cardio and stretching, some resistance, haven't touched the weights yet.

Nut had me add an extra  protein shake or too, but try and keep my calories around 600.  Doing BMR calculations, I'm burning around 3000-3500 cal/day (with exercise - 600 cal intake).

Do you think I'm on the right track?  As of right now, I feel pretty good, energy level is OK.  Still losing weight, etc.  Open to any suggestions from the boys.
Blazade
on 6/30/10 4:07 am - Onalaska, WI

750 calories a day is probably more than most of us got in at 6 weeks.  The above posts are from guys over 1 year post and mostly on maintenance.  I am 6 years post.

Robert

nate2009
on 6/30/10 4:49 am - Lebanon, OH
yep , I am almost a year out and moved on from pounds lost to trying to burn a little more fat and add muscle mass back.
    No longer about weight , it's all about living.            
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