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Ok, now don't everyone panic... ;-)

jpcolter
on 7/24/08 6:54 am - San Francisco, CA

I had doubts about even posting this but a lot of us use Soy based protein supplements.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25833435/
Boner
on 7/24/08 7:26 am - South of Boulder, CO
Sperm, smerm....don't need it or want it at my age. On the other hand, this was personally  interesting:

“Men who are overweight or obese tend to have higher levels of androgen-produced estrogen. They are converting a male hormone into a female hormone in their fat. The more body fat you have, the more estrogen you produce in your fat,” Chavarro said.

Another THANK GOD for WLS or else we'd all end up becoming Tuna's. Right CB?

Boner

PS: I love women, especially intelligent ones  
(deactivated member)
on 7/24/08 8:57 am - Houston, TX
on a side note...Boner...

I just read that licorice lowers testosterone....so no jelly beans during the race....

foobear
on 7/25/08 4:01 am - Medford, MA
Xposted from the GBLT board:

I wonder how many people in the US really eat true licorice. Even the black "rope" candy is usually made using anise or other licorice-like flavorings, rather than true licorice. And that's a good thing, because licorice has a wide variety of potent steroid-like effects and side-effects that belie its apparently-innocuous use as as a flavoring and candy ingredient.

Licorice itself contains glycyrrhizic acid and several related steroidal compounds. These compounds mimic the effects of the natural mineralocorticosteroid aldosterone, and licorice, when eaten in amounts not much greater than a usual "licorice habit", promotes sodium retention, potassium excretion, fluid retention and can lead to dangerous and uncontrollable increases in blood pressure and sometimes deadly hypokalemia (low serum potassium levels.)  Discontinuing the ingestion of licorice is all that's needed to reverse this syndrome.

Furthermore, licorice inhibits both 17ß-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase and 17,20-lyase, which catalyze the conversion of 17-hydroxyprogesterone to androstenedione, the immediate precursor to the primary androgen, testosterone. This accounts for the well-documented (but unfortunately still not well-enough known) effect of licorice on serum testosterone levels.

Interestingly enough, this very same week, a new "miracle drug" in the fight against aggressive, seemingly-incurable, castration-independent prostate cancer was reported in the press, the investigational drug abiraterone. Most cases of incurable prostate cancer result from tumor cells that have developed the ability to synthesize their own androgens that promote further growth, even in the face of androgen-blocking drugs. Abiraterone, by blocking the synthesis of such androgens, even outside of the testes, apparently has helped men with only a few weeks to live to survive for months or years, and even prosper.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7502238.stm

Like glycyrrhizic acid, abiraterone is also an inhibitor of 17
ß-hydroxylase/17,20 lyase (though it may not have the undesirable mineralocorticoid effects of glycyrrhizic acid). So, an old favorite candy of your grandmother's may turn out to be a fountain of youth for men who had previously received a death sentence!

/Steve


foobear
on 7/25/08 5:33 am - Medford, MA
“Men who are overweight or obese tend to have higher levels of androgen-produced estrogen. They are converting a male hormone into a female hormone in their fat. The more body fat you have, the more estrogen you produce in your fat,” Chavarro said.

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/Steve

(deactivated member)
on 7/24/08 9:04 am - Houston, TX
ok guys help me out here...

decreased sperm...equals what....besides less chance of babies...

what would be the downside...of decreased sperm

does it lower the testerone level or the testosterone level increase the sperm...

I eat soy nuts every day...I mean every day...I don;t care if i'm shooting blanks as ling as i'm shooting...

Ok another question...does this mean, that our new virility may be the result of us just feeling what a normal guy feels, we just had it buffered by fat....if that is the case I was jipped for 42 years!!!!

NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 7/25/08 6:08 pm - Japan

But I was just as horny when I was fat. Of course, I'd lost down to thin several times.

Body builders have been suspect of soy for years.

When are you guys coming over to the private locker room? It's great.

Just PM Dx!

Best Wishes,

Dave

 

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