Banished ...
Welcome!
Don't let people drive you off.
Everyone has something they need to whine about. If they whine about something you say .. joke 'em if they can't take a fuck.
WLS is a very personal choice that has to be decided between the person having it and thier surgeon. No one else should try to influence someone into one type of surgery over the other.
I've never seen that type of activity here on the Men's Forum; that's why I pretty much stay here. I think it's incredibly stupid to have the "My surgery can beat up your surgery" debate, but alot of folks do. Who gives a **** what type of surgery you had if the outcome was massive weight loss and improved health?
welcome! I I too am a cancuk from Waterdown (part of Hamilton now) and I too don't much like the Ontario board. yup, DSers have an opinion, and yup, they tend to try to crush anyone who disagrees, but as you said, there are pros and cons for all WLS! me? lapRNY - Oct 3/06 and I'm down 207 and one very happy camper.
so post away, I think we have 3 other canucks here in the Locker Room - you'll find GREAT men's support here and we've got some real characters here too....
make yourself at home and stay outta tunatown....
Jim

I'll add an opinion here...
As a pre-op Dser, I have to say that while doing my research I have found both sides of the debate has their bad apples.
Even as you look at the list of responses here you can see how everyone has a judgement about DS, and why the RNY is better.
I chose the DS because of the research I did, not based on opinion.
If you are post op, I don't see why the kind of surgery you had matters, it should be how you can help yourself live healthy.
As far as you being banished, you weren't by any means... you were just called out on your choice of words.
It seems to me Rnyers has a "everyone has their opinion.... but mine's better and right" attitude for the most part. In my own experience.
Actually, I corrected myself - It was self imposed exile. I am tired of the free ride Bruce Willis Jr. (Ed) gets in selling his vision of what is the best WLS, while if any of the other members of the board share their opinions, that do not support ED, they are shot down.
The time and the thread where I posted my response was bad, but Ed has been getting on my nerves for some time. I almost quit the board after the nasty frakas of a few weeks ago, but decided to stick around. This time was just too much ...
Anyway, I am not alone, as I have received a few personal messages indicating that others on the Ontario Board are off to happier forums on OH, as they are tired of the infighting. Furthermore, since Cindy has openly accused me of ruining the harmoney of the board and her WLS support group, I have gladly helped her out and I will go elsewhere for ongoing weight loss support.
It is usually so much more peaceful here and people are willing to help you with ongoing issues, not discuss what has been done - I really like the change of pace.
The time and the thread where I posted my response was bad, but Ed has been getting on my nerves for some time. I almost quit the board after the nasty frakas of a few weeks ago, but decided to stick around. This time was just too much ...
Anyway, I am not alone, as I have received a few personal messages indicating that others on the Ontario Board are off to happier forums on OH, as they are tired of the infighting. Furthermore, since Cindy has openly accused me of ruining the harmoney of the board and her WLS support group, I have gladly helped her out and I will go elsewhere for ongoing weight loss support.
It is usually so much more peaceful here and people are willing to help you with ongoing issues, not discuss what has been done - I really like the change of pace.

On June 23, 2008 at 8:33 AM Pacific Time, Beam me up Scottie wrote:
I think if you can keep your cry baby drama off this forum it would make for a much better experience all around. There is no "my surgery is better then your surgery drama" here, and we like it that way.
Scott