just a question

geonward
on 3/5/08 3:31 am - starksboro, VT
i was wondering ive been here awhile and havent seen anyone ask about fat burners such as xenadrine  or rip fuel ect. suplaments such as creatien or other body building items has anyone used these along with or after wls i use to  use alot of supplaments when i was lifting weights daily and recently started taking some vitamins and supplamment nothing dangerous no ephedra or caffeen but omega-3 fatty acids and things that are healthy testosterone boosters etc. if you have or do please let me know you expieriance please ingnore my spelling it sucks i know im working on it lol
The One Geon Ward
(deactivated member)
on 3/5/08 6:51 am - Houston, TX
Hey my tatted up brother... I think your new insides are gonna need a little respect for a while after surgery... I think depending on how you heal...caffene would be ok about 9 months out... at about 2 years I started Redline...liquid...those pill would burn a hole straight through me.... Creatine made me fart...really bad, I had to give it away....and I wanted to take it sooo bad.... Some of the guys have different reactions.... you mileage may vary.... OH and my spelling suck too Russ
Beam me up Scottie
on 3/5/08 6:58 am
Don't feel bad creatine makes my stomach upset....and I have a cast iron DS stomach...but it still gives me a tummy ache...so  I stopped taking it.   Oh well ...so much for my dreams of being Arnold...pre politician...and pot belly. Scott
Beam me up Scottie
on 3/5/08 7:01 am
I wouldn't take it......as a new post op....your body is still adjusting to the surgery......there is no proof that those things will work, and your body will burn enough fat by itself without any additional help if you just follow your surgeries "rules".  As for creatine...honeslty I didn't take or rather I didn't try it until I was almost at goal.  It kind of makes you retain water and  gain water weight...which is kind of  working against what you are trying to do during your rapid weight loss phase.  Not that it's bad....just not something I personally wanted to do ...I was trying to get to goal as fast as I could.  Now at 2 years out...if I could take it (it makes me ill) i'd take it.. Scott
kypdurran
on 3/5/08 1:02 pm - Baton Rouge, LA

I posted this a week or so ago for someone regarding supplementation.  The BEST supplement you can take is protein.  Hands down.   Good ole' protein. 

I've literally taken it all during my lifetime, legal and illegal.   First let me say that I ABSOLUTELY don't recommend steroids because they will give you great short term results but the long term consequences you deal with are not worth it.   They seriously screw your metabolism up, cause massive weight gain, screw with your hormones and add a load of other undesireable side effects.

Currently I take an amino acid supplement (probably snake oil), glucosamine and chondroitin, fish oil, GNCs Active men's multivitamin, glutamine, B-12 (pill and liquid) and a vitamin C tablet.   I've also been taking an Ephedra / Caffiene tablet a few times a week to give me a boost in the morning when I drag ass.   I got off it a couple weeks ago before I ran my marathon and haven't taken it prior to the race.   I do cycle the Ephedra because my body quickly gets used to it.  I will take it in the future again though because it doesn't affect me like it does others.   

I've also taken Creatine in the past and while it does work it makes you retain a ****load of water.   The NOXplode just made me feel freaky so I quit taking it after I finished my jug. 

With all that said the best weight lifting supplement that you can take over the counter is good ole' PROTEIN.  A common statement that you will hear in many weight lifting / bodybuidling circles is that "Each pound of muscle (lean body mass) needs approximately 1.5 - 2 grams of protein to support it."  Sometimes that will be distorted to say that said person should consume 1.5 - 2 pounds of protein per pound of body weight.   Personally I think that's a little excessive so I stick to the 1.5 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass.   Actually, to be quite honest I really stick to a little over 1g of protein per pound of lean body mass.  I usually consume around 200g of protein a day.

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