What is (are) some significant life lessons you have learned before, during, or after your WLS

HerbR
on 12/20/07 2:23 pm - Upstate, SC

The last couple of days of comments directed towards the “Oprah-ish postings” have lead to a lot of good and interesting discussions on this forum. I value this space, having a men’s locker room is important to me.  While I am not a consistent poster, I do read through the posts daily. I have learned a lot about our common and uncommon WLS experiences here.

What I do find interesting is the diversity of men that are part of this forum. Based on this range of age, occupations, marriages and other forms of living situations, what (are) some significant life lessons you have learned before, during, or after your WLS journey.

For me, some significant life lessons are surrounding how must wasted energy I put in to hopeless relationships which I failed to see in my youth, based on my feeling of self-worth surround being MO and how much losing my father 5 years ago to a stroke, has made me regret a lot of selfish decision I made towards my family.  I am sure there are many other lessons among us.  


Poor men want to be rich, rich men want to be king.
And a king ain't satisfied 'till they rules everything.
   
                                                                          - Badlands
sjbob
on 12/20/07 5:39 pm - Willingboro, NJ

Afew things pop quickly to my mind:  1  I'm not the only person having questions or even anxieties at any stage in the WLS journey.

2  Truly learning to live one day at a time.

3 I have a lot in common with most of the men on this forum just because of my physical, mental, and emotional being as a man.  This should seem overwhelmingly obvious, but society has changed so many things that should refer to men to simply  humanity.  We may have equal rights with women, but we are different accross a broad spectrum of our being.

There is more to life than food.

(deactivated member)
on 12/20/07 7:15 pm - Houston, TX
Hey Herb... What a great question.... Some years back I read a book by F Scott Peck, I think it was paragraph 4 he set out his premise for the book....:Life is difficult, Once you accept the fact that life is difficult, you get through it easier" Staying with good nutrition, keeping the job good, exercise, relationship...these all take time, to do them properly....you have to give each problem the time it deserves, to satisfy it completely.... so I know that time management is difficult, I accept it, and not try to take the easy way out...do the right thing right the first time... Luckily, I don;t have to devote as mush time to sitting down and eating, and my energy level is higher, so I'm able to perform better....if that makes since... Russ
wjoegreen
on 12/21/07 12:35 am - Colonial Heights, VA
Post op revelation; food is not for pleasure. Though it can be pleasing, it is fuel for the body.  When it becomes companionship or comfort ro being looked to for pleasure, the danger meter is redlining; going the wrong direction. What is the real issue and what should I be doing besdides eating. Exercising is for my own good health.  It is hard to take time out of the day to do it regularly; daily .  But if I do, i am healthier and stronger and more able to do for others with regularity and feel better about myself and my ability to be of use. We need love and hugs just like women.  If we are lacking in that area; not receiving a desireable amount, we need to do more/give to others and not wait for others to show love and affection to us.  Waiting for others to be affectionate is only a good way to become bitter and resentful; a prude. Be romantic, be a bit flirtatous, do little things that let people know we appreciate them or recognize their existence and their accomplishments.  Tell people when they have done a good job or endured a hurdle.  They appreciate it.  Do you really want to be the one people say could never be satified or they could never live up to your expectations when you were only really trying to motivate them to do better??  Maybe we can do both at the same time. This really is a simple existence.  The things of men make it complicated.  We sleep, we eat, we work, we play.  We endure trials and sadness, we have accomplishements and joy, we make mistakes and we do good.  We die.  Mortal life is temporary. Nearly dying before WLS and having a smaller physical stature than I have had in along time have helped my perspective.  I have endured and still experience emotional waves of think; whats the purpose of all this.  I am sure coupled with turning 50, I am seeing things differently and I think more clearly than in the past.  Now if I will allow all of this new wisdom and perspective to make me a better person, I could benfit from all of this physical, spirtual, and emotional pummelling.
Joe Green 
Colonial Heights VA
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carbonblob
on 12/21/07 2:37 am - los angeles, CA
good post. i guess i had to come to the realization that scott did. i'm an addict. i doesn't matter what the culprit is but food is one of them. i have the tool now but still deal with food issues. something i guessed i foolishly wished would go away. so head hunger is real and is a *****

being smaller really didn't change much of anything else about me. same old problems same old me. it's been a swing in appearence though. people would look at me because of my size. now i'm not noticed at all (except for compliments from time to time).

i read a lot of posts on here where guys are lifting and getting a physique for the first time and they love it and all the attention it gets. so we've changed on the outside and that's a huge thing to go through whether you lift or not, you've changed. so we all are dealing with body image in one sense or another.

so, it's a journey i guess. never ending......carbonblob
Mike H.
on 12/21/07 9:15 am - SF Bay Area, CA
Happiness is a choice that you make which leads to inner peace.  Love is important.  Giving makes you feel good; in fact it seems that whatever you give is returned in multiples. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanakkuh, and Happy New Year!
Mike H
Beam me up Scottie
on 12/21/07 10:45 am
WLS isn't the panacea for all of life problems...just because you are thin doesn't mean that you will be ahppy..there are a ton of miserable thin epeople in the world.......all of my life issues weren't weigh related even though the weight issue took most of the blame for a long time in my life.  Happiness is a journey not a destination. Scott
Tim A.
on 12/23/07 11:44 pm, edited 12/23/07 11:52 pm

Scott summed it up pretty well, but all add my two cents. I have a new physical me but I still have the same issues and problems with work, family, and life as before. A lot has changed in my life since WLS mostly for the better but some things have gotten worse. The lost weight makes me much more physically capable of dealing with my life and I have a lot more options open to me now that I don’t weigh 460lbs. I have also learned that it’s also very important to change your old habits after WLS so you do not fall back into the same traps that helped make you MO to begin with. I have learned that regular exercise is something I must do for physical and mental health now and I accept “no excuses” from myself for missing a day. After a stress filled day at work, climbing mountains and power hiking really lets me clear my head and sort out my problems. I have also learned that WLS is just a tool and the really hard work starts after the surgery is done. My relationship with food has changed, as Joe said, food is fuel for you body now, it's no longer the great comfort that it once was. I use to eat when I was bored so I make sure that I am busy now days’, sitting on my ass in front of the TV stuffing my face is how I got to 460lbs.  I deal with a lot of family stress from my 18 and 23 year old kids, my wife of 27 years, my 85 year old mother, and a my sister who suffers with long term depression issues. Combined all that with being a telecommunication test manager of 50+ people in the US/India and my life is really insane some days. Before WLS I would have been a real wreck but now my life is much more centered and focused. The WLS program at Duke University has really helped renew my sense of direction and discipline in my life. They combined great surgeons with their own nutritionist and physiologists into a 12 month program which helped me get my head and body right before and after WLS. I finally feeling like I have control of my future and I’m no longer heading down a slippery slope to an early date with the grim reaper. I knew that I was not on the right path for my health before I have WLS I really felt powerless to stop my downward spiral. It does not happen all at once, it’s a slow multiple year slide where you just get to the point where you won’t do something you use to do. That what happens with obesity, we lose one little thing at a time and being the creative creatures that we are we adapt, avoid, or learn to live without it. My limits started with not wanting to walk up stairs all the time so I would ask my kids to fetch and carry for me when I need something like food, tools, walking the dog, etc… My son finally refused to do it because he said that he was not going to contribute anymore to my early death. At the time he did that I yelled at him but now I realize how much he loved me to take a stand. The final straw for me was when I could barely walk to my truck at the end of the day to drive home. I remember silently cursing people for not leaving any parking spaces close to the building in the mornings, now I park my shiny red Mustang as far away as possible and I always take the stairs even when I am right next to the elevator. I also try and go for a walk at lunchtime everyday when my schedule permits. I could have done all of this before I had WLS and I can’t say why I didn’t, but now I am in control so I do.  

My WLS success has translated into a lot of positive things for me at work and my interpersonal relationships with others. I have had leadership roles since my days in the Navy at the age of 25 so I am not unaccustomed to being the lead guy. I can’t say it was all WLS, but I’m sure it is part of the overall look, confidence, and ability equation that people now see me as the natural leader in most things I participate in. That was not the case pre-WLS, a lot of folks treated my like I had the plague. I sure what folks see is the confidence I now feel in myself and I have not had that for a longtime since I became MO.

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