Is this normal?? Is something wrong with me??? Should I run to the WLS office???

BroDiamond
on 11/25/07 11:03 pm - New Haven, CT

I had a flashback to before I had surgery Cookie!!! B - Started off good Oatmeal, Turkey Bacon & Coffee L, D & snack is where it all fell apart (Zebs fault)!! 1 Cornish Hen Mac & Cheese(wheat pasta)    corn  Mac & Cheese again!!!  Big glass of Peach Flavored drink(Walmart Brand) I even dank 2 extra large glasses of water 30 minutes before my meal.   Sugar Free pound cake with whip cream   Sugar free apple pie & a large cup of coffee!! A Bowl of Turkey Chili. I ate for like 7 hours straight after church (2pm - 9pm)

kypdurran
on 11/25/07 11:18 pm - Baton Rouge, LA

It's normal for some foods like oatmeal, chili, mac and cheese and other similar soft foods to just slide through the stoma in your pouch.   I've never bought into the bull**** about stretching your pouch out and the few bariatric surgery doctors I've talked to about the pouch stretching called bull**** on that too.    As you get furthur and furthur out your body learns to process the food more efficiently and thus you can eat more.  The first few months out of surgery your pouch is all swollen and healing which restricts the amount you can eat even more.   As it 'relaxes' you can eat more and as your body learns to process the food efficiently you can eat more.  

Try eating some food that will hang around in your pouch longer like chicken breast, turkey, steak, etc.   It helps to not drink with meals but I rarely am able to do that anymore.  

BroDiamond
on 11/25/07 11:31 pm - New Haven, CT
Good Brother man u look great, I wish I could get slim like you!!!
kypdurran
on 11/25/07 11:42 pm - Baton Rouge, LA

Don't beat yourself up about the stuff you ate.  At least most of those foods were somewhat approved.   I'm a LSU fan so you can imagine my disgust when I realized that I had finished a box of holiday Christmas butter cookies during the LSU / Arkansas game over the weekend.   It was all nervous eating and I didn't notice that they were all gone until I was at the bottom of the box.  We all slip up from time to time.  Slipping up means you are human.   It's just how you deal with the slip up that counts!    In my case, my self-imposed "punishment" is to exercise 3X a day each day this week.

Hang in there!

Doug S.
on 11/26/07 12:22 am - Pelican Rapids, MN
I've found it's very easy to over do it when eating the soft foods. Start eating the solid proteins first, beef, chicken, etc. and eat slow. It's like I have some sort of delayed fuse when it comes to feeling full. So go slow and give body time to tell your brain your full.  I also had to realize the importance of not drinking  during the meal. I had to learn it the hard way of course, I learn most things that way. You stumbled, so what? Get up, dust yourself off and continue on your way. For me, exercise benefits mentally perhaps more than physically. I need the exercise and the discipline it requires to keep me positive about this journey. Hang in there, brother. We'll get there together.
(deactivated member)
on 11/26/07 8:44 am - Houston, TX
Hey Bro...I'm glad you posted....I've been thinking about you all weekend long... A couple of things I want to chat with you about.... One, congrats on being able to identify that you might be overeating,,,, that is big... another thing....at this time of year...if food is there...you need to disapear...if food is in the kitchen...you are in the garage...go for a walk...I had to learn, not to take my wallet when I walked ..or I would walk to the burger king... for me If I eat something that has carbs...that;s it for the day...I eat and eat and eat...the longer I  can put any carb in my mouth the better I do....I think they cal lit a carb rebound... and I was going to PM you..but since you are here.... there was something I had to do several times to get control...give myself a bad case of the foamies..... I know, it's nasty to think that you would inflict yourself with this... but...4 big bites of ham, and then real fast some oatmeal, to spackle it in..... really drastic...but.... russ
NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 11/26/07 5:39 pm - Japan

Next time, start with some slices of meat or bird (after the water). Follow with a half a biscuit. Then eat a salad.

repeat one hour later if you get hungry (minus the water).

If you can still eat like that check the warranty on your RNY.

I suspect it's the soft nature of the foods you ate. Even chicken can be cooked until it's really soft, especially cornish game hen!

Dave

 

_Chris_
on 11/27/07 10:11 am - Calera, AL
I freaked myself out one day eating chilli (I am 3 months out right now). I ate a LARGE bowl of chilli, no problem at all. I was freaked out, this was at lunch. I came home and had 4 slices (thin) of ham, 2 crackers and 1 slice of cheese.... BAM THE foamies.... The foamies teach you many lessons... Chew, eat slow, eat less and be aware of what you are eating. I hate the foamies, but it reminds you that your tool works. I am dying to try Wheat Mac and Cheese, but I try to stay away from Carbs. This past week at Thanksday, I had 1.5 plates of food. The next day for lunch I had 1/3 plate of the same food and I had the foamies and had to puke to feel better. I think my difference there was how fast it took me to eat mixed witht he fact since I had 2 spoon fulls of dressing the night before I tried 4 for lunch.... again BAM the foamies.... While we are on the food subject... I found a way to get rid of being constipated... Eat ice cream!!! lol It clears me out ever time!
Boxman
on 11/27/07 9:47 pm - Kokomo, IN

Hey Chris.  I've had similar experiences to you, and I'm only 8 days ahead of you.

When I first graduated from full liquids to soft foods, I did OK.  But for the last 3-4 weeks, I've had a real problem with protein.  Even canned meat (which the nuts. say doesn't have to be shredded) doesn't sit too well.  A few bites, and I start to get nauseous.

I'm not exactly sure what the 'foamies' are.  But my symptoms are waves of nausea, and my salivary glands kick into overdrive.  If it really bad, I dry heave (practically nothing comes up, 'cause there's practically nothing TO come up.)  This can go on for several hours.  I've gotten to the point where I don't want to even TRY to eat meat before noon, so I rely on my protein supplement. OTOH, I can down a large Wendy's chili, no problem (WAY more than the 4 oz. I'm supposed to be eating).  Same thing with soup, even when it has veggies and meat in it - the same meat that, if I ate it by itself, would bring on the nausea. This post-surgery eating is DEFINITELY a learning process! 

"Let's get small."  - Steve Martin


_Chris_
on 11/27/07 10:14 pm - Calera, AL
On November 28, 2007 at 5:47 AM Pacific Time, Boxman wrote:

Hey Chris.  I've had similar experiences to you, and I'm only 8 days ahead of you.

When I first graduated from full liquids to soft foods, I did OK.  But for the last 3-4 weeks, I've had a real problem with protein.  Even canned meat (which the nuts. say doesn't have to be shredded) doesn't sit too well.  A few bites, and I start to get nauseous.

I'm not exactly sure what the 'foamies' are.  But my symptoms are waves of nausea, and my salivary glands kick into overdrive.  If it really bad, I dry heave (practically nothing comes up, 'cause there's practically nothing TO come up.)  This can go on for several hours.  I've gotten to the point where I don't want to even TRY to eat meat before noon, so I rely on my protein supplement. OTOH, I can down a large Wendy's chili, no problem (WAY more than the 4 oz. I'm supposed to be eating).  Same thing with soup, even when it has veggies and meat in it - the same meat that, if I ate it by itself, would bring on the nausea. This post-surgery eating is DEFINITELY a learning process! 

Dude... You and I are just about identical. So I would say we are good. I had 3 small pcs of chicken in my salad for dinner last night... bam... very small case of the foamies (when you can't control the amount of spit you are creating, don't swallow I spit it out as to not fill up with that liquid, as it will only come back up). The last month I have been struggling with protein as well.  But every morning I have a protein bar and I eat lots of peanuts through out the day.  Liquidy foods are no problem for me at all, soups, chilli and salads with out meat. I find if I drink enough water it helps everything else out as well. But the last month I have been off track with protein. I have to go for my next blood work check up soon and I know I am going to get kicked in the Jimmi's. I have been using this protien shots, 27 grams of protein in 2 onces. I just hope I am absorbing the protein. Cause I am not getting enough from meat products. This I can tell by my loss of muscle strength already. Plus my GF says I need to start hitting this gym, as I am starting to look "thin" in my arms, leggs and neck. I think she just not use to seeing the new me yet. 

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