Why am I tired all of a sudden?

NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 9/7/07 11:20 am - Japan

I haven't noticed a drop in physical energy as much as a drop in mental energy. I find myself wanting to do a lot less in the afternoon and evening hours. Mornings are about the same as pre-op.

Summer is also a time when my lively little 18-20 year old students aren't around and I have no classes to prepare. Classes create so much nervous energy that when they are taken away, it creates quite a lull, not to mention an instant absence of people to interact with.

Dave

Scott William
on 9/8/07 9:47 pm
Within a few months of the surgery, I could work all day and night and would not get tired.  I knew that wouldn't last but  the tail off has been a little extreme.  Perhaps there is a mental aspect that I am overlooking.
Scott

Link to my running journal
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1303681

4 full's - 14 halves - 2 goofy's and one Mt. Washington!
Dx E
on 9/7/07 12:27 pm - Northern, MS

Scott, Hopefully your blood-work will show any problems there. Getting in all of your B vitamins? Iron? Protein, and consistent level intake of calories Tends to be the problem in such cases. Folic Acid is another that hits folks.

*[post above] Hope you’re hittin all cylinders soon! Best Wishes- Dx

 Capricious;  Impulsive,  Semi-Predictable       

Scott William
on 9/8/07 9:52 pm
I have been slacking a little lately so it will be interesting to see about increasing my protein.  I also just added iron which was not recommended to me by my surgeon.  We shall see what happens.
Scott

Link to my running journal
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1303681

4 full's - 14 halves - 2 goofy's and one Mt. Washington!
wjoegreen
on 9/8/07 12:47 pm - Colonial Heights, VA
Guess the original response attempt at humor missed the mark? Finished OH.com support group facilitator training today and the 3rd and last session was on Digestion and Nutrition.  I came across some jewels of fatigue wisdom that I thought might be helpful.  I intend to alter my intake as a results,..... After WLS, our absoption ability is imparied so while we need to intake 60+ gms of protein daily, or the more prescribed using one of two recommeded forulas: 1.  8 grams per 20 lbs or 1 gram per kilogram of desired body weight 2. Sally Meyers: Subtract 120 from current weight, multiple by .25 and add 120 200+ gms a day ain't crazy for us. Take into consideration that only Whey protein Isolate has about a 100% absorption rate in RNY patients.  Most other proteins take longer to be absorbed so we only get between 80-50% of what we take in otherwise.  So taking in 120-200 gms doesn't mean we are getting the benefits of that much,...we may need more, depending on activity, lifestyle, metabolism etc. H wh runs marathons might be impacted....... Some symptoms of low protein include: loss of muscle mass, decreased immunity (geting sick), being cold, headaches. Lack of B3 (niacin) can affect energy. Biotin aids in the metabolism of protein, in addition to aids with hair and nail growth/regrowth And the newer revelation for me - deficiency of Amino Acids we may not be getting enough of from our multivitamin(s) or protein mixes.   Symptons of deficienes include: lack of quality sleep, lowered or fluctuating energy levels, lack of feeling overall healthy.   Recommended fix - examine and change or add protein with aminos, different types of protein sources to include those from food (animal meat).  Such as: Lysine deficiency - tiredness and lack of concentration Valine - promotes mental vigor, muscle coordination and calm emotions.  Glycine - triggers release of oxygen to energry requiring cell creation.  Glutamine - gives a lift from fatique, improves mental capacities, and controls cravings for sugar. Aspartic Acid - aids in removal of ammonia from body, increases resistance to fatique and increases endurance. Proline - proper functioning of joiints and tendons and maintaing heart muscles.   Alanine - important source of energy for muscle tissue, brain , and nervous system and aids in the metabolism of sugars and organic acids. Minerals: Cromium (controls normal release of energy from glucose) Magnesium (controls energy production, heart and nerve function, and prevents muscle cramps) Potassium (regulated body fluids, normal heart rhythm, and prevents muscle cramps) Iron deficiency symptoms - chapped lips, desire to eat ice, brittle or flat fingernails.   The liver can store B-12 and iron that can cause bloodwork labs to show sufficient iron levels while what is avaible to the body is actually getting lower and lower.  By the time it shows as a deficient on bloodwork, you have  real problem; like the idiot light that comes on in your car when something is already malfunctioning.  Extra iron will only be passed in your urine so taking more can't hurt you and might help you feel better.  Ditto with B-vitamins. You probably already knew all of this from DxE and such but it was news to me and I thought I'd share in case anythng might be of benefit to you or readers of such. A little wisdom can be a dangerous thing,...can't it?
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