Study Proves Locker Room guys are geniuses (but we knew that . . .)

Doug Such
on 8/22/07 9:49 am - Northern, CA
Hey Guys, Our good judgment in deciding to have wls has been confirmed by a STUDY!! Not that we manly men need no stinkin' studies to confirm our big manly brains. But . . . just for good measure, here is a copy of a Washington Post article about longevity and wls. (No, not that kind of long-gevity.) *Study: Weight Loss Surgery Increases Longevity* By Rob Stein Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, August 22, 2007; 5:06 PM Obese people are significantly less likely to die if they undergo stomach surgery to lose weight, according to two large new studies that offer the first convincing evidence that the health gains of losing weight translate into living longer. The research, involving some 20,000 obese people in the United States and Sweden, found those who underwent surgery had about a 30 to 40 percent lower risk of dying over the next seven to 10 years compared with those who went without the operations. Previous studies have shown that losing weight cuts the risk of diabetes, heart disease, cancer and other major ailments, and suggested that might lead to an increase in longevity. But the new studies offer the strongest evidence to date to answer one of the most important and contentious questions about one of the nation's biggest health problems: Does weight loss result in not only healthier lives, but also longer ones? "The question as to whether intentional weight loss improves life span has been answered," wrote George Bray of the Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge in a commentary accompanying the studies in Thursday's issue of the New England Journal of Medicine. "The answer appears to be a resounding yes." The proportion of Americans who are overweight has been rising steadily, and two-thirds are now considered overweight, including about a third who are obese. The trend increases the risk of a host of health problems, but skeptics have questioned whether being fat necessarily shortens life, and whether intentionally losing weight extends it. "This is very exciting," said David R. Flum of the University of Washington in Seattle. "Although we've known for years that weight loss can reduce medical conditions associated with obesity, the link between a reduction in these conditions and an increase in longevity has been elusive. This is huge." The obese people who underwent surgery in one of the studies lost 14 to 25 percent of their body weight. The studies did not examine whether losing only moderate amounts of weight, or losing weight by dieting or taking diet pills, would also translate into longer lives, but several experts said they believed it would. "This makes it clear that if you can get people to lose weight they are going to live longer," said Louis J. Aronne of the Weill Medical College of Cornell University. "That is what people in the field have been saying for years. Now we have proof. These papers represent a milestone." Skeptics, however, remained unconvinced. They argued that the longevity benefit in the studies was relatively small, especially when weighed against the risks of stomach surgery. "I would hate to see these studies being used to justify the argument that we should be doing weight-loss surgery to save lives," said Paul Campos of the University of Colorado, author of "The Obesity Myth/./" "The claim that we have to give people weight-loss surgery to keep them from dying imminently is greatly exaggerated . At best it's a very, very modest effect." In fact, the data could be interpreted as showing that obese people fare fairly well without surgery, others said. Mortality for those who were not treated remained very low, they said. "Until today, we have had little information on how well extremely obese people do without treatment," wrote Paul Ernsberger of Case Western Reserve School of Medicine in an e-mail. "Even though the group ranged up to 60 years of age, 96 percent of them survived for 10 years. Nearly 88 percent survived for 16 years. These are far better odds than doctors are predicting for their fat patients." But others said the studies demonstrated a clear advantage from surgery. In the first study, Ted D. Adams of the University of Utah and colleagues looked back at 7,925 severely obese people who had undergone stomach surgery and 7,925 similar obese people who had not. After an average of about seven years, those who had stomach surgery were about 40 percent less likely to have died, the researchers found. Those undergoing surgery were 92 percent less likely to die from diabetes, 60 percent less likely to die from cancer and 56 percent less likely to succumb to heart disease. In the second study, which several researchers said was even more convincing, Lars Sjostrom of the Goteborg University in Sweden and colleagues followed 2,010 obese patients who underwent stomach surgery and a similar group of 2,037 patients who had not had the operation, also known as bariatric surgery. Over the next 11 years on average, those who had surgery were about 30 percent less likely to die from any cause. "This study for the first time offers strong evidence that intentional weight loss, or at least bariatric surgery, is associated with decreased morality," Sjostrom said. Sjostrom and Adams acknowledged that they did not have enough data about different levels of weight loss to determine how much of the benefit was from losing weight and how much might have been from other effects of the surgery. "I think it's certainly related to weight loss, but there may be other mechanisms happening that are also playing a role in addition to weight loss connected to the surgery itself," Adams said. The findings were hailed by proponents of stomach surgery, which has been controversial. The procedures involve reducing the size of the stomach through various techniques. The number of Americans undergoing the procedures has risen quickly in recent years, and about 178,000 are now done annually. Critics have questioned whether the risks of the expensive procedures outweigh the benefits for many patients, and whether they were being done too frequently. "These are landmark studies," said Kelvin Higa, president of the American Society for Bariatric and Metabolic Surgery. "These studies clearly show that bariatric surgery saves lives." Several other experts agreed that the studies provide strong support for the surgery for severely obese patients but questioned whether the procedures were being done too frequently on less overweight patients who might be able to lose weight in other ways. "I would argue that making fundamental changes in our lifestyles would be a healthier and in the long run more efficient goal," said David Zingmond of UCLA's David Geffen School of Medicine. © 2007 The Washington Post Company

Doug

If we're treading on thin ice we might as well dance.--Jesse Winchester

Dx E
on 8/22/07 11:26 am - Northern, MS

Great stuff Doug! Thanks for passing on the article! It’s been a day of WLS "missing link" info.... Checkout this thread- Additional related info I'm in "Copy-to-hard-drive-heaven" this evening!

Best Wishes- Dx

 Capricious;  Impulsive,  Semi-Predictable       

NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 8/22/07 11:53 am - Japan

Hi Dx,

"More likely to engage in risky behavior?" Us? lol

What else is there if you don't like drugs and alcohol, like me?

Dave

Scott William
on 8/22/07 2:17 pm
You mean that we get to live longer also.  I just did it to score chicks.  It worked. 
Scott

Link to my running journal
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1303681

4 full's - 14 halves - 2 goofy's and one Mt. Washington!
NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 8/22/07 3:26 pm - Japan

Hi Scott,

Sounds like you and that lady are a "hit" (uhh...having a serious relationship) ? Or are there others?

Dave

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