Medic Alert Bracelet?

FatManWalking
on 8/3/07 5:10 am - Deep in the Heart of, TX
RNY on 12/11/06 with
Yes, No, Why? If yes, what does it say. I hate wearing jewelry myself. Don't even wear a watch. However, I travel alone, a LOT. Just looking for others thoughts on this subject. JP
Tommy Deese
on 8/3/07 5:27 am - Dothan, AL
JP I wore one for a while after surgery. My surgeon said it was needed for the first few months, but after that it wasn't needed. I don't know how others feel. Tommy
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John White
on 8/3/07 5:29 am - CA
No, but only because I don't know what to put on it.  I have the Fobi variant of the RNY, and I know we're supposed to have something on it to warn against doing something stomach related.  It doesn't need to be a wrist thing, there are multiple styles (e.g. dogtag).
Dx E
on 8/3/07 5:36 am - Northern, MS
jp, I've never had one, and my doc doesn't recommend them as necessary. I have seen both sides of this argued on the Boards over the years. I went with my docs recommendation. As for "Thoughts on the Subject?" Best (and most thorough and funny) post I’ve ever seen about Med-Alert Jewelry for WLS Patients, Was posted out on the Main Board about 3 years ago….. (imagine, me copy/pasting it to my hard drive, shock!) From one of our Guys from back when the "Men's Board" was still new-- Some of the Gals who are easily offended, Really got some panties in a wad over it.... It was this-----enjoy---------

MEDIC ALERT I believe that Medic Alert bracelets are: 1. Simply a way to draw attention to the surgery, to encourage people to ask about what the person professes to want keep private. "Oh, this?... I've had Gastric Bypass Surgery..."; or 2. Give people the illusion of control over the uncontrollable; Medic Alert Bracelets and Necklaces are intended to speak for you when you are unable to. Thus, it only comes into play when you are UNCONSCIOUS in an EMERGENCY situation. 1. They make it look like jewelry, which emergency personal are NOT looking at for subtle or hidden messages, especially when they are trying to save your life. 2 "No N/G Tube" / "No Blind NG Tube", because if they insert a tube and upon encountering our pouch, FORCE IT, it could to major damage. WRONG. Anyone placing an N/G tube is trained to STOP when they encounter ANY resistance, and specifically NOT to force it. Further, N/G tubes are "virtually NEVER" (Which means extremely rarely, these were the words used by my local ER nurse) administered in emergency situations where the person is unconscious and unknown, as it is rarely a priority to put things into your stomach, which is the purpose of this tube. Further, I've seen the pictures of my pouch... 'pouch' is overstating the concept, so a tube would have to turn a right angle to puncture my pouch, which you must admit is not tube behavior. But that may only explain why my doc thinks them unnecessary, were someone with a different shape might have a different opinion. 3. "No NSAIDs". Yes, this is a HUGE problem, you're lying there unconscious and some EMT is trying to push Aspirin down your throat. 4. "Must Carry Water". Yes, I've seen this. The purpose is so the person can carry their water into movie theatres. Certainly not emergency situations. When I run, I do wear a Dog tag style ID that will speak for me when I can't: TEK (Not my Real Name) LAS VEGAS, NV ALLERGY: PENICILLIN --- Flip Side --- HOME: (702)xxx-xxxx TEK-WIFE: (702)xxx-xxxx (Not her real name either) PARENTS: (702)xxx-xxx This way, if I am unable to speak for myself, the authorities can QUICKLY and EASILY talk to someone who can speak for me. "Better Safe Than Sorry" The reason of last resort, "Its better safe than sorry". IF it is indeed better to be safe than sorry, then we should wear helmets while we drive. We are statistically far more likely to suffer a head injury that could be prevented by a helmet. IF you aren't wearing a helmet, then YOU don't believe its better to be safe than sorry. Medic Alert bracelets are not intended for "Better Safe Than Sorry", they are intended to: 1) Alert emergency medical personnel of a medical condition that may be directly related to the situation they are addressing. Examples: Diabetic Shock, seizures, etc. 2) Alert emergency medical personnel of the potential danger of "normal" procedures. Example: Alergy to "safe" drugs; Horror Stories We've all read horror stories by nurses about such things as a Gastric Tube being forced and almost causing (or causing) injury to a 'normal' patient, imagine the damage to our 'altered intestines'! Think about this... They goofed up by abandoning their training and forcing the tube on the 'normal' person. Based on this experience, normal people should wear Medic Alert Bracelets with "Follow your Training!" on them. Let's face it, Medical people, especially ER people, have seen it all. Yes, terrible things CAN and DO happen. When terrible things happen, no matter how RARE they are, the ER folks are going to see it... Again and Again. They don't see the MILLIONS of people it doesn't happen to. It can skew ones outlook. Horror Stories are effective at moving people. Its difficult to move anyone with "... and everything was OK." Risk and Convenience All day every day we make decisions that involve risk. EVERYTHING involves risk, along with other things such as convenience and probability. Using the Helmet example earlier: Driving in a car has risk, one of which is an accident. The likelihood of an accident is low, but we wear convenient safety equipment like seatbelts (that in many cases are automatic, in other cases it is annoying not to wear them because of alarms). A helmet would add safety. How likely is an accident? Low. Where Seatbelts would help? Lower. Where a helmet would help? Still lower. But is it worth the Inconvenience of hair getting messed up, air circulation? Is it worth looking dorky? Basically, we would rather take that bit of risk for convenience and appearance. It's the same issue for Medic Alert Bracelets. Job 1 Really, all the above is neither here nor there. Weight and weight loss have for many people been a DEFINING factor of their lives. WLS, really, doesn't change that for many people, they've been doing it so long that WLS, weight, weight loss, and hopefully weight maintenance continue to be Job 1. It is more of a mindset issue, the prominence you want your WLS to play in your life. Some people want WLS and eating to be Job 1, like it was pre-op. I want it to play a very little role. UPDATE: OK, I was convinced that I need something to speak for me when I can't, so I looked at the Medic Alert jewelry, and decided on a Necklace: Tek (Not my real name) Allergy: Penicillin RNY Gastric Bypass No NSAIDs – Narcotics Freely Buffet at Child’s Price Must carry Water (Continued on Bracelet) AND, a Bracelet: (Continued from Necklace) Do not Force Scope Calcium Citrate Only Must take Vitamins Must use Baby Utensils while eating No Time Released Medications (Except Narcotics) Did I mention the Discount At Buffets? (Continued on Other Bracelet) AND, another Bracelet: (Continued from Bracelet) Don’t tell anyone… my RNY is a secret Watch out for loose skin Must Walk after Surgery NO fluids during meals Protein First May I see the Children's Menu? (See Anklet for more) AND, an Anklet: (Continued from Bracelet) Its not the easy way! NO DIET SODA Carbs are Evil No Sugar Beware of Noxious Gas "Plateau Buster Diet" Tattooed on Chest (See Necklace for more) After all, If I'm unconscious, I don't want anything left to chance! -----------------------------------------------

Best Wishes- Dx

John White
on 8/3/07 6:00 am - CA
Dx E I'm not wild about that second Tek post.  I mean, where does the joking start?  Before or after "must carry water"?  Is the whole thing a joke?  Is it a good idea to put "No NSAIDs" on it?  Will they actually give oral NSAIDs in an ER to a patient who is unconscious?  The lack of clarity on where the joking starts is more harmful than helpful, I think.
FatManWalking
on 8/3/07 6:57 am - Deep in the Heart of, TX
RNY on 12/11/06 with
Oh, I think it is all pretty much joke, but I can see why the main board ladies threw a fit. JP
(deactivated member)
on 8/3/07 7:05 am - MO
Hey Former Fat man walking, I just returned from the doc yesterday and here's what he said about them,  if you ever have an accident or heart attack or something else that may put you in the local emergency room - you have to make sure they know you have had WLS and you should not be intubated until they phone your surgeon.  First, normally a nurse does it and they slide the tube down your through by measuring, nose to ear to stomach and that is the length, well when the tube gets to a regular sized football stomach it tends to curl up until they stop pushing, however, on a WLS recepitent (sic) there's no room for the extra hose to  curl up and the tube will shoot right through the tummy's liner causing big problems.  SO, he said to make sure that they DO NOT INTUBATE YOU NO NEVER - UNTIL THEY CALL THE SURGEON'S OFFICE AND THEN THEY WILL BE GIVEN DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO DO THE INTUBATION.  He scared me enough that I'm going to get me one! Peace and joy,
FatManWalking
on 8/3/07 7:27 am - Deep in the Heart of, TX
RNY on 12/11/06 with
I dread the thought of wearing a bracelet so much, I think I would rather get it tattooed on my chest. Of course I'm pretty hairy, they would probably miss it. Dying is one thing, I can live with that. (LOL) But to die at the hands of an idiot in an ER doing something stupid, would really suck. JP
John White
on 8/3/07 7:43 am - CA
Here's the place I was checking out with Medical ID Dog Tags for around $10.  No bracelet necessary.
FatManWalking
on 8/3/07 7:50 am - Deep in the Heart of, TX
RNY on 12/11/06 with
I like the simple and affective approach to them. But again, wouldn't it require a necklace or something. I don't think I could do it. Seriously, I'd rather get a tattoo. LOL JP
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