Anyone Else Pigging out & Not Gaining?

Hi Guys,

I drink a lot of water, get a lot of protein and exercise a lot, but my ability to eat and not gain weight has gotten extreme. One day, I ate five ice cream bars and didn't gain and on Saturdays and Sundays, I've given my wife the go ahead to bake sweets. I know some of those days, I've eaten 15 or so high calorie cookies, in addition to other food and along with milk. I'm sure I'm over 4000 calories, but don't gain an ounce. Anyone else got this?

(You saw my pics, I guess. I've been pigging out like this for a couple of months with no ill effects).

Maybe if we exercise, get our protein and water we don't gain? Any such luck?

Best Wishes,

Dave

was just pondering that same subject myself! i can eat all i want and i don't gain a pound. however, i run 3 miles a day and lift as well. plus my work is physical on the days i do work. the only days the scale shows a gain are fleeting because i'll lose them the next day. so i don't take advantage of this fact because i don't want to start bad habits or stretch my pouch. just an observation like you mentioned......carbonblob

Hi CB,

Sounds like you're in the same boat as me. I don't think I'm eating large  quantities of anything solid that would stretch the pouch (possible?), but I'm wondering if anything but my exercise and water drinking habits have really changed. Feel great though. I think I could change my habits if I had to lay off on the exercise. Sometimes I really do think water washes the food through so fast that the calories don't digest. Or, perhaps dilutes any remaining digestive chemicals (?). But I don't drink within one hour of any meal, vitamins or protein. My bypass is 150 cm, so maybe one foot longer than average, too.

Hmm...

Dave

I am with you guys with a but.  I am killing the calories also but like CB am doing the running.  Probably 25 miles a week at this point.  As October approaches, I will kick it up to the 40 range.  That will help.  But I do have to reign it in as I see the weight approach 250.  When I get to 247 I take it easy for a few weeks, get back to 242 and start again.  I can't say that I eat whatever I want and not gain but I do eat a lot. Scott

Hi Scott,

Never know who to believe on this issue, but maybe a lot of your distance is "steady-state", as oppsed to Fartlek or intervals, sprints. My understanding is, that for marathon training, some of this is necessary, but if you do too much it can actually make you gain weight in the long run.

Here's an article on aerobic exercise

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin4.htm

Basically, he's saying you don't want to look like Richard Simmons or many aerobics instructors (lots of exercise, but still pudgy).

Dave

 

What the article says is that doing a track workout with multiple quarters may be more benifitial than a 10 mile run because you continue to burn calories for hours after the workout.  I can see how that is possible with getting rid of the lactic acid.  I do one track workout a week so I am on the right track. Scott

I have found myself to be eating more the last few weeks and perhaps not surprising I've kind of been plateuing...My solution has been to go back to always eating my protein first, it seems to fill me up faster or maybe just because it takes longer to chew, but I've been getting that full feeling after eating less of a volume of food. Tonight for example we had turkey burgers. I skipped the bun and the mayo and lettuce and pickles. just the burger with a slice of fat free american cheese and some heinz low carb ketchup, that burger and three bites of scalloped potatoes and two pickle chips and I was STUFFED....You guys mentioned fear of stretching the pouch, I was told my doctor that it is impossible...My theory is the slower and better we chew our food the pouch can start emptying while we are still piling in food, I think that is why i have noticed myself feeling full and then if I stop for a minute or two I feel like I can and (too often do) pile on a few more mouthfuls. I am going to ask my doctor about this next time I see him in a couple of weeks. I wonder if maybe we don't stretch our pouches but stretch our anastomosis instead, allowing for the food to slide down quicker and getting around the "full" feeling

Hi Mike,

That's a good idea. Solid protein before splurging on any cookies or ice cream.

As for blown stomas...

One of the M.D. research abstracts I read on the SAGES  site, actually talked about a prosthesis for blown out stomas, so I know it is possible in some cases. You gotta wonder how much these people are eating, though. When I eat I lot, it's mostly sweets or other soft stuff.

What I'm seeing is simple carbs not turning into fat. Wonder if you could ask your doc if the bypass actually rushes the carbs through so much that they aren't even hitting the papilli, or if water is diluting digestive juices so much, that calories aren't getting in (if you have time, that is...)

Thanks,

Dave

I'd bet it is a combination of all of those things plus I think with the amount of excercise you do you've got to burning up all those simple carbs before your body even has a chance to store any of it. Perhaps an ample amount of cheap carbs as fuel would hinder fat loss, but it seems that at the point you are at, you don't really have any to burn!!! I will definetly ask him though, but I think I will get a "it's complicated with alot of variables" type of answer. We'll see..

Hey Fellas,
Yup... Me, too.
Right now, I'm eating about 3200-3500 cals a day (with a 4000 cal day thrown in here & there). However, rarely do I eat any food with little nutritional value. I have been known to throw in a light beer or two once in a while.
With all of my swimming, biking, running, elliptical & lifting... the scale still creeps downward. 6'1" - 188lbs. I had my body fat checked twice in the last week: 9.6%. If I had my extra skin removed, I'd most likely be under 170.
I spread my calories out over the course of the day (I eat every 1 1/2 - 2 hours) and try to keep the percentages at 20% Fat, 50% Complex Carbs & 40% Protein.
I couldn't eat more if I tried without starting to add in some high fat / high calorie / sugar-laden foods... and I ain't going down that road ever again.

I guess this is how normal, healthy men, with no weight problems, and who exercise regularly can eat!

All I know is... I'm liking the new trend.

Be Well,
A.J.