Really Struggling Here. Men only please, I asked please.

underthegun
on 6/17/07 1:50 am - Starke, FL
Hey guys I just wanted to apologize for falling down at my post again and for missing posting the jokes for a couple of days this past week. I am having a really hard time right now the Divorce is not even a month old yet and I thought it would be easy to deal with, it's not. The Depression is really starting to kick in and I am quickly hitting the point of not even wanting to leave the house and I have my final appointment with the Surgeon in the morning before my Surgery on the 25th.

 I have spent the last week in Nashville, Tn and while there I met a person from another board that is a really nice person and all but I just don't want to rush into anything. It was nice to got out with someone other than the kids for a change but the thought of any type of a relationship with any one at this point scares the hell out of me.

 Here it is Fathers Day and she takes my kids to her mothers house just to punish me a little more for whatever silly reason that she can come up with. Since leaving from my job with the prison the only friends that I have are folks on the boards on here. It seems as if my entire life is in limbo right now and I just want to crawl in a hole some where. Most mornings the only reason I even crawl out of bed is to post the jokes for the day. Thanks for allowing me to vent.
                                                                                                                               Dan
wjoegreen
on 6/17/07 2:27 am - Colonial Heights, VA
Dan buddy, It seems this is some darkness before the dawn.  I would say you must be on the brink of something marvelous and you just need to hold on and endure to the end.   WLS will change your life for the better after the first 4 weeks of the learning curve and forced eat ha*****anges.  Don't fight it, it is a good change that will reshape yuo life if you stick to the post op plan. Changing careers and enduring a divorce on top of WLS is quite a heap but only a strong person could get through all that ; especialy the pettiness and levering of divorces;....ugly business. Vent any time dude,..and don't worry about the jokes. Joe
Dx E
on 6/17/07 2:37 am, edited 6/17/07 2:52 am - Northern, MS

Dan, Sorry your world is crapping on you these days. Divorce, Job change, and prepping for WLS? Hell, throw in a House Fire and you've got the the top stress causers known to man! It also Sounds like some serious Depression. Crap happens, (a lot of crap at once) -you begin to feel bad about it, then you begin feeling bad about feeling bad, And worse about feeling bad about feeling bad about feeling bad- and downward the spiral goes. You Need to get help from a doc on this one. People rarely just "snap out of" a depression, even when put on an anti-depression medication. But with help, most feel a little better day by day. It’s a problem that feeds itself. Like if you had a broken arm, that caused the other bones to begin breaking to compensate. Depression Suks! And, it is VERY COMMON among the Obese. One of the leading "Co-Morbidities." Depression can make you feel exhausted, worthless, helpless, and hopeless. Such negative thoughts and feelings make some people feel like giving up. It is important to realize that these negative feelings are part of the depression not an actual reflection of how your world is really going. Treatment needs to be on your Monday Morning Do-List. Negative thinking fades as treatment begins to take effect. But- In the meantime: Some of the typical suggestions to help cope are--- 1.) Break large tasks into small ones, set some priorities, "Make a Do-List," and do what you can as you can. 2.) Try to be with other people and to confide in someone; (like us here) it is usually better than being alone, even if you ‘force it’ like visiting acquaintances or going out to a place where there is interaction- 3.) Participation in any activities that may make you feel better. Mild Exercise, going to a movie, a ballgame, or participating in social, or other activities may help. 4.) Expect your mood to improve gradually, not immediately. Feeling better takes time. 5.) It is often advised to postpone important decisions until the depression has lifted. (like the case of spending more time with the ‘person from another board’) Before deciding to make a significant transition--change jobs, new relationship, --It is often recommended by Psyche-Docs that you discuss it with others who know you well and have a more objective view of your situation. From- "All about Depression"--- If you have any doubts or questions about seeking help for depression, it is better to be on the safe side and go ahead and speak with a professional. Left untreated, depression can become worse and may be more difficult to treat successfully. The following individuals or organizations can often provide treatment services and/or make referrals for service: *Family doctors and other physicians *Mental health professionals: psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, counselors *Community mental health centers *Hospital psychiatry departments and outpatient clinics *Hospital emergency rooms (in times of crisis) also- "freebie" or cut-rate help can be available at- University- or medical school-affiliated programs, State hospital outpatient clinics, Family service/social agencies, Employee assistance programs, Local medical and/or psychiatric societies. The Yellow Pages can provide additional phone numbers and addresses under "mental health," "health," "social services," "crisis intervention services," "hotlines," "hospitals," or "physicians." Get this taken care of! Look up a doc, or two or three and plan out the phone calls for the morning. In the meantime, distract! Hit a movie- (something fun, funny, things blowing up ‘real-good’) Not something that’ll drag you down more. Go hit a mall and walk some. Listen to music that makes you feel "Up." Tire your self out, then hit the bed early tonight, and set the alarm for first thing in the morning calls. Yes? It’s Father’s Day. Invest your time in YOU Today. Next month when you’re up-beat and hittin’ on all cylinders Then you can work on family and "new person" to hook up with. Hollar if you need us! Best Wishes- Dx

Doug Such
on 6/17/07 2:40 am - Northern, CA
Hey Dan, No apology needed. I don't think you're venting so much as expressing the hard emotions that come with big losses. You're in a difficult place going through major changes, so naturally you're going feel lost, confused, sad, angry, etc. I know how you feel because I went through similar cir****tances 25 years ago. So I also know that this sort of response doesn't mean a whole lot when you're raw, BUT: You WILL FEEL BETTER and you WILL GET YOUR LIFE BACK. It may not seem like it today, but we do recover. The secret (which isn't much of a secret) is to take things one day or even one minute at a time, putting one foot in front of the other as they say and just persisting. Try not to do anything too damaging and then do your best. There are no shortcuts or magic tricks, just the normal, unavoidable stages of recovery. I believe and hope that your upcoming surgery is going to be an even bigger blessing than usual (and it's always a big blessing to us). Because your surgery is coming at this hard time for you, it can help distract you (a little at least) from some of the bad stuff in your life. Best of all, regardless of how you feel, your changing body will give you positive feedback that's independent of your mind. In other words, I think your positive physical changes will help your spirits. In the meantime, do not hesitate to seek help for your depression if it persists. There are lots of good docs and miraculous meds nowadays, so give them a chance if you can benefit from them. Lastly, don't let the divorce and job issue rob you of appreciating the great changes coming your way from WLS. The surgery will, sooner than you can now imagine, give you--and your kids--a new life. And for sure don't let your ex push your buttons. I know, easier said than done, but you can at least not let her know the button pushing is affecting you. (Hey, small victories are still victories!) You did right by posting here. I know the other guys will rally around, too. We care about you, brother, and will do what we can to stand with you as you go through this valley. When I was at my lowest point and I got really angry about my plight, I reminded myself of the saying that "Living well is the best revenge." That helped a little. But the one thing that helped the most was reminding myself of all the people I knew who had gone through even worse things and came out better, stronger, happy people. I held on to their examples like a life-saver. So you hang in there, my friend. You will be happy again.

Doug

If we're treading on thin ice we might as well dance.--Jesse Winchester

papabear47
on 6/17/07 3:39 am - Stockton, CA
Dan, I can't add any expert advice to what the others have said except that we are here to help you pull through this cycle.  You are our brother and we feel your pain. Sometimes life can really suck but we always get through it with a little help from our friends.   We are always here for you.  
NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 6/17/07 6:42 am - Japan

Dan,

Sorry to hear about the depression. I almost never respond to depression posts, because all of my personal "treatments" - things that make me feel better when I'm depressed - are all temporary fixes and may not apply to others. These are usually involve the opposite sex (sounds like you're doing that already) and getting exercise.

If nothing else, try to get out and get an hour of sunshine whenever you can, then progress to some exercise. Talk to people whenever you can. Practice your faith or do something spiritual whenever you can.

Sending positive energy your way!

Get Better,

Dave

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on 6/17/07 7:16 am, edited 6/17/07 7:16 am
Boner
on 6/17/07 8:38 am - South of Boulder, CO
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro". Truer words were never spoken, Paul. Hunter S. was certainly one of a kind, wasn't he?  Boner
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on 6/17/07 12:52 pm
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on 6/17/07 7:28 am, edited 6/17/07 7:29 am - MO
Dan, Sorry you are struggling with all the crap at once.   It is hard to create a balance when your side is weighted down so. I would take Dex's advice and just chilll out and start turning on to yourself in a little self love.  Everything will work out in time but it's a tough walk man. Sometimes when the whole can of garbage of living dumps on us at the same time, we have to focus on ourselves.  First, I want to tell you that you are a very important person, a person of worth.  As a person of worth you are worthy of love and to be loved.  You cannot control what your exwife does nor would you want to - she will not convince your children that you are trouble, more than likely the resentment will turn on her. Make a list every morning of what is great about this world in living, like breath, flowers, birds of the air, to be a dad, to be a friend, think about the freedoms you are about to unleash on yourself with the surgery, WOWee, sing a favorite song.  If your heart is breaking - then let it break and tell it and yourself that when breaking time is over - the rebuilding time is going to be awesome.  Look at all the wonderful things in your life and also look at the hurtful, don't oppress it, or treat it with kid's gloves, admit it hurts, have a good cry and be rejuvenated. I am reminded of Tina Turner's song, "I'm so excited!"   Tina was married to a very oppressing individual who kept her down, beat her, and told her she was worthless for years and years.  Finally she broke out of her marriage and performed this song with ferver, "I'm so excited; I just can't hide it; I'm going to lose control and think I'll like it!  I'm so excited...." I'm Pre-Op too and it's a hard road when our bodies are not allowing us to live to our fullest potential, but I keep my eyes focused on that Sunrise - knowing that someday I'm going to break out.   Keep your eyes focused on 'what can be" not on what used to be.... Prayers & Reflections, BobM.
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