First Post-Op Restaurant Experience

Chuck N.
on 4/16/07 11:19 am - Salt Lake City, UT
Hi all - I went to lunch at Chili's today with a colleague, and everything stayed down fine.  My friend and I have been to Chili's a hundred times before, so as soon as we were seated he ordered chips/salsa (like every other time we've gone), and I spent 10 minutes looking at the menu.  I thought about chili, but was nervous about the sugar or fat content. I chose Chili's because I figured I could get grilled chicken, but I was too nervous to try the marinated, so I just got the plain grilled chicken.   It came with rice, corn on cob, and steamed veggies - so, i asked for just the chicken and veggies, but it came with everything - UGH.   Anyway, the chicken was dry and tasteless, and the veggies were cold and soggy.  I was craving a  chicken salad, but haven't eaten any raw veggies yet, so I decided to try a salad at home first just in case it didn't agree with me. Anyway - I did fine at the restaurant being around all the other food - but, frankly the food I had SUCKED!  And, I was a huge chili's fan prior to surgery (mostly ordering the big salads).....   If anyone has any restaurant suggestions I'd appreciate it - I do business lunches quite frequently and I guess after I make sure I can eat salad, I can order grilled chicken salad with no-fat/low-fat dressing.   Sorry for rambilng, I just found it much more difficult to order than I thought.  Any input would be appreciated...  Thanks, Chuck
Ron .
on 4/16/07 12:19 pm - DFW, TX
My first restaurant experience was at "The Texas Roadhouse". You really need to bring your appetite to this joint, let me tell you. And here I am standing over 6 feet tall, probably still pushin' bout 325 lbs. My wife and I sit on the same side of the oversized booth, and the waitress asks if we would like to have an appetizer. I replied "No Thanks", then asked if we would like sweet tea, again, "No Thanks, I will have water w/lemon", then later when taking our order was stunned that my wife and I were going to share an entree. Probably thought my wife wouldn't get any food out of the deal. My wife has never been able to finish an entree, I was always willing to help her prior to surgery. Now, neither of us can finish an entree, so we share when we eat out together. It's cheaper, and no food goes to waste.  When you first start eating out, it really stinks. Your tastes are still messed up, you can't eat much, etc. Give it more time and gets tons better.  Ronnie
Chuck N.
on 4/16/07 12:26 pm - Salt Lake City, UT
Thanks Ronnie....    I'm sure our server was wondering about my order, but he was very nice and professional - I'm six nine, and around 475 right now - so, ordering ice water and the "Guiltless Chicken Platter" - minus the rice and corn, was a shock I'm sure.   I never thought it would be so weird at the restaurant - but I kept picturing myself having my first dumping experience there if I tried anything other than the BLANDEST thing on the menu.   And, I certainly found the BLANDEST thing too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Like everything else on this journey - it's all about living and learning.   The best part about lunch was parking at the far end of the parking lot (it was very crowded), and being able to keep up with my friend and arrive at the front door without gasping for air and sweating!!!!!!   It's all worth it for DAMN sure................ Chuck  
Ron .
on 4/16/07 1:15 pm - DFW, TX
6'9"?? I would hate to meet you in a dark alley when you're mad! I'm sure you've heard that one before. I've never dumped, per se. I've only gotten the drowsiness dumping and had to lay down for a bit. It hasn't happened since I was about a few weeks post though. My biggest problem was going into cruise control at the restaurant and not paying attention to bite size and chewing. I've had to make quite a few trips to the bathroom to spit up something that wouldn't go down because it was too big to fit through the stoma.  If you enjoyed salad before, then I would definitely give salad a shot at home. No matter where you eat out, salad is always available to you.  Ronnie
Chuck N.
on 4/16/07 1:30 pm - Salt Lake City, UT
I was actually going to stop by Burger King and get a grilled chicken salad to bring home Saturday to try, but I was running errands and got sidetracked and completely forgot about it!!!   My cruise control moment today was with my drinking - I had started eating the chicken and reached for my glass (since the chicken was so damn dry) - then I realized what I was doing and stopped.   I did use some of the salsa for my chicken though - that definitely helped with the taste, and made it more moist...... Chuck
Dx E
on 4/16/07 2:56 pm - Northern, MS

Chuck, I have to eat out a lot in my line of work as well. My restaurant "Go To" Food order is- Grilled fish, Salmon if I’m near a coast And steamed veggies. Nearly every place will sub- Steamed veggies, for just about anything. Some of the "Chain" type restaurants I’ve found to work well are mostly the Italian ones- Bertucci’s, Carrabbas, even on the low-end- Olive Garden. Bertucci’s if there’s one where you’re headed: http://www.bertuccis.com/About_Us.htm has a good Salmon and Tilipia dishes on the menu all the time, and if not into seafood- They have a meatball appetizer or an anti-pasto appetizer that with a salad makes a respectable meal choice. They also have a sausage soup that’s easy on RNY’s and Great veal dishes. Their roasted chicken is also moist, and they have a veal/salad/soup combo that’s a great way to look like you are eating a lot, without actually eating a lot. Carrabbas : http://www.carrabbas.com/locator.asp http://www.carrabbas.com/companyinfo.asp

-is also one that has the "Brick oven roasted_____/Fire grilled" always on the menu. Their grilled chicken is rarely dry- (most restaurants make it dry as cardboard) The chicken with the goat cheese kicks azz! And their Marsala Chicken is good too. They also have a Veal Piccatta that has little fat except for Olive oil and it sits well. They do Salmon really well. Even Ole Olive Garden has some good choices- http://www.olivegarden.com/locate.asp Most everything is "served over pasta" BUT- the stuffed mushroom appetizer works great With some minestrone and they have ok salads. Some of them have a "stuffed Chicken Breast" that is pretty good. The trick, (you’ve discovered the big one) is not to reach for the beverage. If you can master that one and get it to be habitual, you’ve got it made. An occasional sip if you get food that is "Whacky-Dry" Won’t do you in, just try to order stuff that won’t take a beverage to get it down. Yes? The other is resisting the chips (mex) or the bread at other places. I have an aversion to the soft-fresh bread, after gaking up a stuck Bagel bite for 4+ hours in the streets of New York.!!

Still, I’ll always be tempted to "just have a little of the crust" if it’s good bread…. Avoid it! If you can, unless of course it’s like Mucho-Multi-Grain-Low-Glycemic-sprouted grain stuff… Then, it’s a good choice, but some how less appealing……. At the real "low-end" eating out, I’ll default to Breakfast meeting….. I can, and have been able to eat and enjoy eggs since I first started back on solid foods. An egg white omelet, and just leave the toast, is a great meal that no one will notice that you aren’t Eating Too Little, because you won’t. You’ll eat about the same as anyone else.

We’ve got a good number of you Basketball height guys here. Amazing! Ok, enough babble….. short answer?—Go for italian, rarely Bland- Have the fish! Avoid the bread….. Best Wishes- Dx

panhead58fl
on 4/16/07 1:43 pm - Barboursville, WV
Don't worry Chuck it gets better. You may be one of the lucky ones like me. I have not "yakked" as my surgeon called. I guess it is some kind of medical term. I haven't dumped or had the foamies and over all my taste has not changed. I watch what I eat, no sugar, no carb's, I have been able to add vegies. I can eat spicy foods as well. I was afraid that my pouch would not be able to handle it. I had a cast iron stomache before and my pouch is holding it's own. Don't get me wrong I have taken baby steps about trying new stuff, trying to add new things one at a time. My wife and I go out to eat a couple of times a week and I always manage to find somethig to eat. I do like Paul posted some time back, order it the way you want it, if the menu says it comes with a rice I tell them I want steamed vegies or a garden salad instead.  pan head
carrtje
on 4/16/07 4:12 pm - Chico, CA
I was at Chili's a few days ago and had the Tilapia. Firecracker Tilapia or something like that. It was mildly spicy, but rather tastey. They served it with bland veggies. I'd have it again...but then again, I eat a lot of fish.
alwuetrich
on 4/16/07 10:15 pm - Hopkins, MN
I heard you guys mention a few different kinds of salads.  Aren't they supposed to be difficult for our pouches and digestion, etc.?  Curious because I definitely crave salads (maybe if I would have craved them more preop, I wouldn't have need surgery. lol) al
Dx E
on 4/17/07 12:33 am - Northern, MS
al, early on salads (or the catagory-Crispy Vegetables) is an issue And many docs say to avoid for at least first 11 to 18 weeks. Past that, they are a great way to prevent constipation, and add high-nutrition, higher fiber, lower calorie content to the dietary intake. Early on- Bad Further out- Great..... I've had more salad in the last 2 years than I had in my whole 48 years prior combined! Best Wishes- Dx
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