Shredded Pork, eastern NC style

(deactivated member)
on 3/29/07 9:09 am - northeastern, NC
This is something I put together from a different board. If you don't like vinegar sauce, them use whatever you like; the roasting and shredding is the important part for a WLSer.

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You need to get a pork shoulder cut - you can probably find one in the grocery store in about the 6 lb. range, you can try a butcher for a smaller one. You need the Boston butt (which is shoulder despite its name) or picnic cut. Bone-in is supposed to be better.

Then you smoke it, at 200 to 225 degrees, about one and a half hours for every pound of meat. You can use charcoal but hardwood is better if you can manage it (hickory is traditional). You can also use a combination - charcoal with chunks of hardwood that have been soaked in water beforehand. It is done when the internal temperature reaches 180 to 190 degrees.

Once you take it out of the smoker, let it cool for about 15 minutes or so and then you shred it. You shred it just like you would chicken - pulling off strips by hand. You can chop it up finer after that if you want. Then you add the sauce.

There are about a grillion different recipes for Eastern NC sauce. Find a basic one that sounds like something you'd like and tool around with it until you get something you really like. Make sure to make the sauce a day or two ahead of when you cook the pork and stick it in the refrigerator - that gives the sauce time for the flavors to meld. Here's a basic recipe:

1 cup white vinegar
1 cup cider vinegar
1 tablespoon brown sugar
1 tablespoon cayenne pepper
1 tablespoon Tabasco (hot pepper) sauce or to taste
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon ground black pepper

Adjust the sugar, cayenne and Tabasco to levels that you feel you can handle.
Pulled Pork recipe
If you grew up or traveled through the Carolina's, you know this dish is the very definition of BBQ. The traditionalists in this area will prepare this by cooking the "whole pig over whole logs." It is then served, piled high on the cheapest buns you can buy and topped off with a dollop of creamy cole slaw. Depending where in the region you travel, the sauces, always served on the side, can run the gamut from vinegar to tomato to mustard based.
So, how close can we come to duplicating this process for the average cook? Well, honestly, not very! BUT.......you can still make a very wonderful and tasty pulled pork in the oven. You will miss the subtle taste of smoke, from those whole logs, but that is part of the price you must pay to cook in the oven.
Pulled pork starts with a cut of pork commonly referred to as "pork butt" or "Boston butt". Unlike its name may seem to imply, this is NOT cut from the pig's ass!! It is the upper part of the entire shoulder. The shoulder is comprised of 2 cuts, the butt and the picnic. The picnic can be used for making pulled pork as well, but the butt is the more traditional cut.
The butts are most likely shipped to your butcher in pairs, packed in cryovac, and the weight of each butt is around 7-9 pounds, making the total package 14-18 pounds. Many times, by the time it gets to the display case, it has been further cut in half and will weigh between 4-5 pounds. I always like to request a full butt and ask if I can have one directly from the cryovac package. The weight will make a difference when cooking, so choose whatever size is most convenient. I tend to cook only the larger, bone-in, 7-9 pounders. Pulled pork freezes very well and can be re-heated with fantastic results. So, why not cook a bunch!
OK, you have the butt, now what? There is very little trimming needed. I have always cut only the outside layer of fat away. Cut any fat off and trim right to the meat. 2 reasons why you want do this...there is plenty of internal fat to keep the meat moist and the rub will more easily disperse throughout the meat.
Once you have trimmed, now you can prep. You will want to cover the entire butt with a rub. This rub is nothing more than a variety of spices blended together. Below are 2 that I have used with some success. Feel free to experiment with your own blend!
Kevin's South-of-the-Butt Rub
4 tablespoons paprika
2 tablespoons salt
2 tablespoons granulated sugar
2 tablespoons brown sugar
2 tablespoons cumin
2 tablespoons chili powder
2 tablespoons pepper
1 tablespoon cayenne pepper
Mix together. Use liberally!
Memphis Style Pork Rub
4 tablespoons paprika
2 tablespoons celery salt
2 tablespoons salt
2 tablespoons black pepper, coarsely ground
2 tablespoons cumin powder
2 tablespoons dark brown sugar
1 tablespoon turbinado sugar
1 tablespoon dried oregano
1 tablespoon cayenne pepper
2 teaspoons dried sage
2 bay leaves
1 teaspoon dry mustard
Crush the bay leaves and combine all ingredients.
Prior to applying the above rub, you will want to moisten the butt with either olive oil or some cheap, yellow mustard. The mustard adds a nice crisp "bark" to the outside layer of meat, yet does not have the overpowering taste of mustard. Slather either of these all over the butt and then apply your rub.
Now, you have a choice, you can let this sit overnight and allow the spices to "mingle" OR you can cook it immediately. If aging over night, wrap in plastic wrap and refrigerate. Allow the roast to come up to room temp prior to cooking the next day.
How you cook this cut is the most important part to getting a nice moist pulled pork. This cut of pork is loaded with internal fat. It is this fat that we want to "render" away. Scientifically speaking, the connective tissues and collagen will start to break down at temps of around 150-160 degrees F. This is exactly what we want to happen. The great secret to allowing this process to occur is to try and keep the meat temp between 150-170 degrees F. The longer you can hold those temps, the more this fat will render.
So, how do you achieve this? By cooking the meat at very low oven temps. We cook all of our pork butts at a temp of 225 degrees F. For you at home, I would set the oven at 250 degrees F and plan on taking 2 hours per pound. This will still assure you that the meat temps will stay in those ranges for a long time. In the end, we want the meat temp to reach and exceed 200 degrees F. This can be measured with a regular meat thermometer, just be sure you stick it into meat and not fat OR you can stick a fork into the butt and twist it; it should twist easily.
Cook the butt in a roasting pan with a rack to hold it above the fat that will render out. Half of this butt will cook away, so there will be lots of fat! You may have to empty your pan, so keep an eye on this.
Cook the butt UNCOVERED. The goal is to make that outside bark nice and crispy (without burning). The only way to do that is to expose the butt to the heat of the oven. If you were to cover the pan in any way, you will produce steam which will prevent the formation of a nice crispy bark.
Let the butt cook for about 3 hours before looking at it. At this point, you can open the oven and "mop" the meat. Mopping is applying a liquid to the surface of the meat...this will help to keep it moist and add some flavor. I use a very simple mop of 3 parts apple juice or cider and 3 parts cider vinegar and 1 part of olive oil. This can be applied with a brush, a mop, or a spray bottle. You can now mop every couple hours or as often as you would like.
I believe the 2 hour per pound estimate will be accurate 90% of the time. However, one of 2 things will invariably happen when cooking a butt...it will finish early or it will finish late. What to do? To speed up the cook, take the butt out of the oven, turn the oven up to 300 degrees F. Wrap as tightly as possible in heavy duty foil and place back in the oven. It will still take some time to finish so plan accordingly. If it finishes early, remove from oven and turn oven off. Wrap as tightly as possible in heavy duty foil and return to the (unheated) oven. You can hold like this for several hours.
Once the butt is finished you can now "pull" the meat. Let it cool to the point where you can handle it. Then use your hands to pull strands of the meat. A pair of forks will also prove helpful when pulling the meat. There may still be pockets of fat, so remove these as you start pulling. Place this pulled meat into whatever serving vessel you plan on using. Be sure to mix in the nice darkened bark of the outside meat with the inside meat. This allows the flavor of that rub and mop to be distributed within the meat.
Now you can build your pulled pork sammiches. For some sauce ideas, see the sauce recipes listed on the recipe page.



wjoegreen
on 3/29/07 1:30 pm - Colonial Heights, VA
Sounds really great,.... You're dwelling on food again and perhaps obsessing a bit,..... R U ? If I get the sauce to hot, you can give destructions on how to extinguish the burn??? (Sorry,...couldn't resist)
(deactivated member)
on 3/29/07 7:45 pm - northeastern, NC
I live in  a state where good BBQ *IS* an obsession... 
wjoegreen
on 3/29/07 9:24 pm - Colonial Heights, VA
Well, you got me there.  NC does make some of the best dang BBQ in the country and living in VA I,m close enought to get it and have competitors to compare it too.  You make a good point.  Obseess on dude.  Glad BBQ works for you.  Or do you just make it and watch others eat??
(deactivated member)
on 3/29/07 10:13 pm - northeastern, NC
In all seriousness, I eat a lot of it, given that I use the vinegar sauce instead of the tomato and sugar kind. I can't tolerate stringy meat at all, and one of these slow roasted BButts (actually part of a shoulder) works just fine. The very slow roast method probably works for beef, but I've never tried. In the bad old days before surgery, I tried doing briskets, but didn't keep them in the oven long enough to break down the strings.
Bobby B.
on 4/2/07 12:27 am - Raleigh, NC
I have to agree with this statement, living in North Carolina BBQ is a way of life.
tilbarr
on 3/29/07 8:30 pm - Mastic Beach, NY
Thanks for takin the time to find and post the recipe Bob. Its much apreciated.                                                                                                                          Tom .
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Keep an OPEN MIND and you will learn.
Chris M.
on 3/30/07 12:58 am
Sounds awesome, thanks for the MANLY recipe!!! I just got a big ol' barrel smoker this winter plan on testing it out big time (prior to my WLS of course! (KCBS Certified BBQ judge here, no BS) I made a ghetto version of pulled pork the other day, actually came out ok. took the pork, threw it in a slow cooker, added a bottle of Cattleman's BBQ Sauce, 1/2 cup o' itlaian dressing, couple tablespoons o'  wershteshire( spelling?) sauce, 1/4 cup o' brown sugar and BAM 10 hours later pulled pork sammiches ghetto style!!
Paul Gubrud
on 3/31/07 2:30 am - Pelican Rapids, MN

Bob, When you posted the recipe last fall I tried it, and it was delicious.  I did it in my Brinkman smoker and cooked it all day long.  The meat turned out moist, tender, and very tasty.  It was very easy to eat and I had no problems with it sitting “heavy” in my pouch, although I didn’t put it on a bun like you’re supposed to.  I would recommend it to everyone.  It was so good that I have made it a few times over the winter, only in the in the oven.  It turns out a little different but it’s just as good.  Now that the weather has gotten warmer, I’m going to have to get out my smoker again.  Thanks for posting the recipe.


May Your Lantern Burn Bright,
Paul
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