pizza

james D.
on 3/11/07 11:50 am
Hi all, quick question about my old enemy the Pizza.  My wife< God bless her, found these South Beach ones at the store and bought one home.  I haven't studied the nutrients yet but it appears to be alright especially since I could only eat less than 1/2 right now. My real question is should I attempt to eat this delicous looking low fat/carb pie or do others feel this will lead to slippage into old habits. I am torn between staying the straight and narrow with protien foods but even though its a "good" pizza.....its pizza! THANKS Jim D Haven't really been sick in a week starting to feel adventuresome. LOL
Ron .
on 3/11/07 1:59 pm - DFW, TX
Hey Jim, The way I feel about being "adventuresome" is that if you think you can't have it, then you'll crave it. Personally, I would go ahead and try it. You're not going to be able to eat enough to throw you off track. Would I start a 5 days a week habit of it, H-E double hockey sticks NO! Everything in moderation!!! "Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels" -Men's Board motto- Ronnie
Dx E
on 3/11/07 2:41 pm - Northern, MS

What’s that they say ?------ "Pizza’s like a BJ.... Even a Bad One is Pretty Good."                                            I can’t remember who talked about 'giving in to 'food temptations' recently, but they equated early post-op eating To Adam in the Garden of Eden…. "You may eat of all, except…….." (then stick any number of items to fill in for the "Apple Tree.") Great to hear you’re starting to feel good. Those first several weeks are a bear, The big trick is to use those first 6 or so months to establish new eating habits and choices. There was a Gal out on the Boards recently who was going on about eating ‘Corny Dogs." When others replied that it wasn’t a wise food choice, she responded that they were- "Morning Star Farms, veggie Corny-dogs and were, blah-blah Protein, blah-blah, low-fat, etc…" This was my thought then, and my thought about the pizza…. Even if you are eating Spring-Water Poached Tilapia, Dressing it up in a Pizza Costume makes little sense, particularly early on. For folks who want to have less trouble maintaining weight loss, the first several months are best served by establishing Completely NEW Eating habits. By eating any arrangement of Protein/Carbs/Fats in the guise of a ‘pizza,’ May only serves to re-enforce and continue habitual poor eating habits. I’m sure that with my Props-Artistry Skills, I could get a glob of UnJury Un-flavored protein into the shape and appearance of a ‘Double-Quarter-Pounder with Cheese", and although it would be pure protein, What would be the point of continuing the "love affair" with MacDonalds? I’d recommend trying something new and interesting Rather than anything that "triggers" the response of "Comfort Food." Making a break from "Food as Comfort" and a transition to "Food as Fuel" is what really seems to be the benefit of WLS. Yes? Just my opinion…….

That said, I do occasionally have pizza, or rather pull the cheese and meat off a piece or two And have it. I was within about 10 pounds of goal weight before I tried it though. Moderation works for some, Abstinence works for others. It’s all trial and error for every one.

Well, more like "Trial, error, trial, succeed, trial, succeed, trial, trial, error, trial, succeed, etc… No straight courses on "The Journey." I’d pass on the pizza until the act of eating it holds no "Special" place in how you feel about it. Does that make sense? If you’re eating it because it’s ‘tempting,’ Then you’re ‘giving in to temptation. If you’re eating it because you need some meat and cheese, and you’re running lower on calories for the day than usual, and it looks like it might taste good? Then "Go for It!" No real answer, just babbling some thoughts about "slippage into old habits," and "Following the Straight and Narrow." Figure out what works for you. Oh, and so I don’t forget-----the requisite response…. "What does YOUR Doc / Nutritionist Recommend?" Best Wishes- Dx

Ron .
on 3/11/07 3:00 pm - DFW, TX
OK, well I think I said the same thing, just a much more diluted summary. LOL.  For me, I never want to feel like I can't have whatever food. Before eating the bad food, I'll first ask myself a few questions like: How much fat? protein? sugar? Will this food help me meet my daily requirements? Sometimes I will still have the food, but mostly talk myself out of it. I enjoy eating healthy, and have noticed that healthy food tastes better, too.  Jim having posted this question shows that he is making the right decisions.  Good Luck Jim, See you around Dex! Ronnie
carbonblob
on 3/11/07 3:07 pm - los angeles, CA
i really like the south beach breakfast burritto because it's low calorie. not much taste to it though so i throw some cheese on it and melt it down. as for the pizza, i can't eat that anymore. it blows up inside me like a balloon. there's still a few foods i can't eat and that's one big one for me. i loved pizza too. dang!
Ron .
on 3/11/07 3:09 pm - DFW, TX
Hey CB,  Yea, me too. I could polish off a large pie myself. That sounds braggy,  I'm glad  I can't anymore. Ronnie 
carbonblob
on 3/12/07 10:32 am - los angeles, CA
i could do that too Ronnie. sometimes an extra large. i can't believe i could stuff that much in me. no wonder i weighed 287#. jeez.......carbonblob
kenINindy
on 3/12/07 1:57 am - IN
I am with Blob.  It sounded like a good idea and I tried one, but was completely intolerant of the breadish crust.  I've not picked one up again.  Paul and my nephew had pizza the other night. I took a few bites of topping, but then headed for some yougurt.  I just don't tolerate the high fat stuff anymore, not because it makes me dump, just because I don't have a taste for it any longer.  I hope that never goes away!.  Was I sad about it?  A little...but I'm enjoying the 4 inches off the waistline in 7 weeks, so I'm not going to cry about it too much! Ken
carbonblob
on 3/12/07 10:34 am - los angeles, CA
yeah Ken, i like having the smaller waistline now! on a different note, we got a deal on a smaller stainless steel fridge. our old fridge was bigger but we don't need that now due to my eating habits! yeah.........
Jim G.
on 3/11/07 3:19 pm - Waverly, PA

James,

 My wife created a pizza for me that was great and low fat.  She used a thin tortilla.  Then added some pizza sauce and low fat cheese and topped it off with some turkey pepperoni.  It was really good.

 Of course, I was only able to eat 2 small pieces.  But it really hit the spot.

Jim

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